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  1. Mr Efficiency
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    So that's the theory you adhere to ? I've never pondered how ginger is actually supposed to work to help sea-sickness, you think it basically turns off the stomach's "heaving" reflex, by overwhelming it ?
     
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    I've never been seasick, but I've tested the ginger tea by taking it, and it's very much a gastro anesthetic. I have felt queasy, so tried it.
    I've prescribed it for passengers and crew who already were seasick, it alleviated all symptoms of nausea and vomiting connected to mal de mar, within half an hour.
    Dizziness and vertigo, it did not help. Bed did. :D
     
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    Pretty hard to down ginger tea when already having been spewing over the side, I'd think. Probably come back up for air pretty quickly ! What about other forms of ginger ?
     
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    ginger snap cookies dry up sloshing stomach acids and provide some nausea relief, enough to get the sips of tea down, which do the job.
    Only twice can I remember, personnel needing to resort to cookies before taking the tea. Everybody else kept the tea down.
    Try some, it's quite soothing.
     
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    The stuff is pretty horrible, on Terra Firma, unless sweetened. I guess honey or sugar won't "kill" the efficacy ?
     
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    sure sweeten or You can even add a different tea to it, just means more to sip before burping, or just chew a bit of raw root.
    How are you making the tea? From raw root I hope.
    If you're using dried powdered spice jar ginger, that stuff IS bitter.
     
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    this is a joke, folks, in case it's not obvious :D
     
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    Yob, where are you going to store your crab and crawdad traps? Are you going to buy collapsible ones? stan
     
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    What it seems to help and not

    Mechanism info - 2011
    * Excerpt dated 2000, "Although ginger is generally considered to be safe (Kaul and Joshi 2001), the lack of a complete understanding of its mechanisms of action suggests caution in its therapeutic use (Wilkinson 2000a)."

    Mechanism info - 2015
     
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    It was obvious ... and pretty funny. :p

    That said, people are eating them ... in the U.S., but much more so in Latin America.
     
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    Crabs, I set out a baited line too old or damaged to use for anything else. Short lines can be knotted together for more length.
    Bait is inserted in the line by twisting open the lay. Longest lasting bait is bull lips/cow lips from slaughter house.
    Line is laid on bottom parallel with a weed bed running beside a channel or bayou bank. Anchored at two ends. Half a concrete block works.
    Line is permanent, bait replaced as needed. Crabs come and go as they please, not trapped. Run same line over and over.
    Moving to new locale? Retrieve line, discarding bait, roll into a coil with stopper lashings and tie off on deck somewhere till ready to re-deploy.

    Line is grappled up, and draped over a roller, such as a boat trailer roller, revolving on a bolt welded to a C-clamp. The roller is clamped to gunwale of skiff.
    A sawed off paddle allows one handed paddling slowly along crab line.
    As the line rises toward the roller, crabs will be clinging to the bait.
    As they reach the surface, it's clearly visible if they are big enough and which gender.
    Use an old badminton racquet or tennis racquet or make something similar, use to bat/flip the big males into a partition area in the skiff, in front of you.
    A plastic storage bin works.
    When you think you have 5 gallons worth, transfer them to a 5 gallon bucket to measure. 5 gallons legal limit here in Florida.
    Nope! My info is outdated.

    "68B-45.005 Bag Limit.
    Except for persons harvesting pursuant to a saltwater products license with a blue crab endorsement and a restricted species endorsement, no person shall harvest in or from state waters in any one day or possess while in or on state waters, more than 10 gallons of whole blue crabs.
    Specific Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. Law Implemented Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. History–New 12-14-93, Amended 10-4-95, Formerly 46-45.005."


    Any females you misjudged, can be returned to water with "apologies mam." Not "illegal" to harvest females, just good conservation to release them.

    Crawdads or crawfish, a bit of bait on a string, cast out and slowly retrieved will bring some within scooping distance of a handled wire mesh tea strainer/flour sifter kitchen tool, or a small dip net.

    Short work to catch half a dozen for live bait.
    Tie them to the fish hook, don't hook them.

    As to catching enough for a crawdad boil, to me, not worth the effort, even with traps. :D
    Best part of a crawdad boil, is the potatoes and corn on the cob, boiled in the crab boil (spiced water) with the crawdads. Prefer to boil crabs in the crab boil with the corn and potatoes. :)

    Ever had coquina stew? The finger nail sized little pink, blue, white baby clams you can dredge up by the bucket full?

    They are for flavoring the stew. Digging out the meat with a toothpick, isn't hardly worth the trouble.
    I class coquina and crawdads together, along with miniature dried shrimp, as mere seasonings. :D
     
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    That sounds like somebody who never tried it.

    Try it yourself.
    Sip the tea until you burp.
    Ten to 15 minutes later, you'll be self debating if you should open your shirt to verify you still have a middle, that feels like it disappeared.

    Then wonder about the mechanism?. Anesthetic

    Cloves are another natural topical anesthetic and pungent spice. Oil of cloves is the "magic" ingredient in most off the shelf toothache remedies.
    Was even used in BCE by Roman soldiers as a tooth ache relief.
    And ginger used by Chinese seaman for sea sickness for 3000 years, since before the romans existed.
     
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    An apocryphal anecdote about the college ran by Hippocrates, the father of medicine.
    The graduation exercise for students, was to go out into the world, discover a plant with no medicinal value, and report back to Hippocrates.
    When the frustrated demoralized student returned, after years of searching, to confess he had failed to find a plant without medicinal use, Hippocrates response was,
    "Congratulations, DOCTOR!"

    Among the plants I want growing on my boat, I WOULD have included a dwarf evergreen, but no need, as pines and cedars and spruce and firs abound throughout the USA.
    The evergreen saps, are sterile, antiseptic, antibiotic, a blood coagulant, and a sealing bandage to keep out air, water, and dirt while a wound heals.
    Remember Jurassic park? The AMBER the prehistoric mosquitos were preserved in, was hardened evergreen sap.
    The mosquitos trapped in amber is true, the story fiction.
     
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    Cute story, but the lack of perfection of science does not devalue it as a process nor make snake oil any better than it is. The scientific method, warts and all, is the best thing that our species ever invented to tell fact from fiction.

    That said, the natural world holds numerous remedies; many the source or inspiration of modern medicines. As conjecture, assertion, old wives tales, and chanting bonfire dances are removed and the scientific method confirms homeopathic (edit: and herbal) remedies work, I'll be among the first to congratulate and buy.
     

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    Can't remember clearly, but cold pine sap seems too hard to spread easily, and hot sap would burn. How is this applied properly, for the purposes you mentioned?
     
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