Bill Garden's Tlingit

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  1. Mr Efficiency
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    Not worried about slamming in head seas ? It would do well in a short chop, but on the open sea the flat underbody could become a problem. It is designed for ease of construction more than ideal shaping.
     
  2. Mr Efficiency
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    A catamaran would give you the advantages of the slim hull, without the cramped confines. Admittedly a more complex and expensive project, though.
     
  3. PAR
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    I disagree about the slamming, as a hull this length will bridge most wave trains and at the speeds it will be moving, not much of a problem.
     
  4. FAST FRED
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    "On a trip around the world I wouldn't be very worried with moorage. Mostly a place to anchor out. A shallow draft would be beneficial for tucking in to little gunkholes. After circumnavigating, I would sell her off to the next adventurer to sail around the world again after me."

    You bet!!

    But a tiny bit more structure on the bottom could have a boat that can "take the ground", not be harmed with low tide groundings 2x a day.

    Most harbors have anchoring areas that wont float most boats at low tide.

    No fighting for room there!
     
  5. Tad
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    Tlingit is a very long small boat, her freeboard aft is less than 24". In normal operation displacement was less than 12,000 pounds, and 2500 of that was ballast. You will need a bigger boat (in some fashion) to carry the 3-400 gallons of fuel (if nothing else is added) for the 2000 miles @ 10 knots range. Aluminum construction and minimum HP leads you to Idlewild, which has been for sale for many years. But she is nowhere near as attractive as Tlingit.

    I came up against the same issue a number of years ago, I think it was on a thread here. Anyway the result is the Poorpassagemaker. 60' x 10', in lapstrake ply or aluminum.

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  6. Rurudyne
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    She may be "poor" but I think she'd still be pretty.
     
  7. rubenova
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    Great feedback all. Tad I love the poorpassagemaker. I'll look around for the post that includes it...and your website as well. I'm starting to think Tlingit may not be the ultimate passagemaker. Is a light, narrow boat possibly not the ideal ocean crosser?
     

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