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In clinic boat, which superstructures should I consider?
For example, General Arrangement

 

sorry, but your question is lost in translation. It makes no sense.

even if you suffer from language barrier I think you can put more effort in constructing your posts. Nobody bothers answering a lazy question that begs for further details. Its frustrating for "us" to have to drag the relevant info from you.

so help people help you and explain in detail what you want to do, what do you aim at, what is you knowledge level, what kind of boat. And as you seem to be a student (of something, tell us what you study) what is the goal of this exercise.

 

Just a amateur project.
I am a fresh-graduate naval architect. I am designing a clinic boat (inland vessel) . I just finished the hull form and then now I am going to do about General arrangement. So, in sich a boat, which parts should I put in GA?

 

I think you are doing it all wrong if you have hull form finished before GA, but I am an amateur myself...

and you didn't take my 1st reply by heart. IN DETAIL. "clinic boat" says practically nothing about the vessel.

 

I know you are an amateur because you don't know what the clinic boat which means "a small hospital ship". Btw, thanks for watching my question.

 

I am an amateur myself, but based on the assumption that this is for using in ports along the river, I would style its layout after a mobile MASH unit operating theater with a treatment room or two. Keep in mind all equipment must be placed logically not only in terms of medical treatment efficiency but must also balance the hull side to side and fore and aft.
We need to know how large a craft you need for the inland waterways which restrict how large it can be and how shallow the draft. Also, what level of medical care will the practitioners on board be able to provide? How narrow are the choke points on the river? That will determine how wide it can be. How shallow are the shallowest areas of the river? That will determine the maximum draft of the vessel when it is fully loaded and staffed.

 

It could be as simple as a barge with a shipping container chained to the deck with the shipping container set up as a clinic.

http://www.clinicinacan.org/our-story/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGHnr4DMwU8

http://healthmarketinnovations.org/program/boat-clinics

 

Unless we have a couple of general and specialistic surgeons in this forum, with a knowledge in hospital systems and management, I don't think you will find anyone here who can give you a qualified opinion about the recommended GA of a hospital ship.
The SOR of this type of ships is defined through a close collaboration with the above figures. You can't invent a GA of a hospital ship.

 

Calling All Doctors!

Based upon my limited experience, a surgical unit would need at a bare minimum an operating suite completely stocked with instruments and sterilizing equipment, a patient intake and assessment area, a waiting area for a family member, a post anesthesia care unit, a gurney to move the patient from surgery to recovery and from intake to surgery, a fully stocked crash cart and qualified personnel to set it all up and run it. Usually the medical director would be the chief anesthesiologist, with the surgical specialists collaborating with him or her for the best outcome of the patient. Keep the quacks off the boat.

 

Even getting the patients onto and off the boat can be problematic. It should be capable of litter bearers transporting to and from shore.

 

Taking a real-politic view of things, the design will largely be determined by the sort of donor you hope will support the operation. A floating womens clinic is going to be quite different from a juvenile cataract surgery because of the different donor interests. Service the donors' agenda first. And hopefully, some good can get done as well. There are darn few of these that don't have some social, religious or political agenda. And they have to attract donations.

In the off chance that attracting donations isn't of primary concern, my first thought is like Hoyt said - A MASH-like unit that is carried ashore and set up on land. This way, the local communitys' resources can be leveraged to the max. Little boat, big clinic. All you need is a barge, a crane, and and pushboat. Most communities could supply the crane and pushboat. You need one guy to show up a week ahead of time and get things organized. Buy everything you can locally, if you circumvent the local vendors, you'll be sunk, literally. I had a friend that did all the ground work and local liaison for a mobile specialty clinic. He was a retired navy bomb disposal tech, a very good electrician, and really alert to his surroundings.

Google "expandable medical shelter"

 

Ok, but he has asked for a GA of the ship. Any of you folks really feel qualified enough to suggest a GA of a hospital ship?

In the past I was involved in the design of technological services for several hospital structures here in Italy. Each time a number of separate briefings were done just to define the basic layout, and each breefing would involve 12-15 people of several technical, medical and management specialties. The technical and architectural requirements of such buildings are very complex and they all start from the operational needs of medical operators, who had their representative present at every occasion. Every room, corridor and door had a precise rational reason of why they were placed there, and why they are in contact with that other space. Detailed technical requirements follow the same decisional process.

Having seen how it works, I can confidently say that I would not dare to suggest a GA of a ship with a similar purpose. The input has to come from qualified persons.

 

You will get no argument from me about this. It has to be laid out by competent professionals who come from NA and MD backgrounds working in a collaborative way. I said I am an amateur but knowing that the OP has to start somewhere in his quest. This goal of providing healthcare in a stricken country's poorest regions is a noble one and I wish the OP all the best of luck in finding the best people to help solve this riddle.

 

I hope these can be of help:
https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject:"hospital ship"
Each of these articles can be downloaded in pdf format, you will find the links on the right side of the page.
That's about all I can contribute to this thread.
Good luck

 

Yesterday he had just completed the design of the general cargo ship, and was wanting to know where to start designing a "speed" boat of all things, and is moving right along to the hospital ship now. A busy week. Next week it will be the starship with hyperdrive, imo.