Shipping Container "Shantyboat"?

Discussion in 'Metal Boat Building' started by KenH, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. safewalrus
    Joined: Feb 2005
    Posts: 4,742
    Likes: 78, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 659
    Location: Cornwall, England

    safewalrus Ancient Marriner

    Hey Ken theres an idea, get several old beat up containers, ship 'em to Indonesia, flog of expensively!

    Use the money to finance a 'large expensive gin palace' and live happily ever after (if not a little bored 'cos you've done nothing) and gets us all as jealous as hell! :D :D
     
  2. Wellydeckhand

    Wellydeckhand Previous Member

    Why GIN? it surpose to come out from a LAMP...........sinful chap:D:D:D
     
  3. sharpii2
    Joined: May 2004
    Posts: 2,249
    Likes: 329, Points: 83, Legacy Rep: 611
    Location: Michigan, USA

    sharpii2 Senior Member

    I like your basic design. I would suggest just one minor change. That would be cutting about a 1/3d to 1/2 meter radius in both the bow and stern ends to make it easier to move about. Such an effort would add little to the cost and add much to the utility.

    Everything else seems much within reason.

    This vessel would have high initial stability but low ultimate stability, so any ocean crossing it would do would have to be on the deck of a ship.

    Hell, I would even consider adding sails and a leeboards to this rig. (of course, I like to do that with just about everything that floats)

    Bob
     
  4. safewalrus
    Joined: Feb 2005
    Posts: 4,742
    Likes: 78, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 659
    Location: Cornwall, England

    safewalrus Ancient Marriner

    Hey Sharpii does that include beer barrels, then you could die happy!:D
     
  5. jerryniff
    Joined: Dec 2005
    Posts: 17
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Florianopolis, SC Brasil

    jerryniff Junior Member

    Well, of course it includes beer barrels ..... didn't you notice that he is from Michigan.
    I like the initial idea but am still not sold on the idea of corrugated containers as the part below the water line. Other than that .... why not. Guy on the other side of the island lives in a VW van placed on top of an old wooden fishing boat. Works for him and works for the women in his life. So ... what is the problem?
    Gerald
     
  6. Wellydeckhand

    Wellydeckhand Previous Member

    What a waste of good aluminium.........doesnt mix well with container.:mad: :mad: :mad:

    Should go around people's yard with permission of course;) ........ buying off cheap left over material:idea: .......That is more professional :cool: and economical :p in helping to buil the JUNK:?: .........chinese boat or really bad term:D :D :D

    Enviro Friendlio

    WELIODEKIHANNA
     
  7. safewalrus
    Joined: Feb 2005
    Posts: 4,742
    Likes: 78, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 659
    Location: Cornwall, England

    safewalrus Ancient Marriner

    Jerryniff, yeah as I've been saying all along nice box, nice house but not direct into the water put it onto a barge and we're laffing! Or sell the box to 'Welly' he'll buy anything! thenlive in the barge direct!
     
  8. Wellydeckhand

    Wellydeckhand Previous Member

    Mmmmm............Walrus:) .....U wont get a piece of action in Borneo river on landside:eek: . The girls prefer protection of the river as a barrier.;) .... too many walrus snooping.........:D :D :D

    WellyDeckerhander

    P.S. Is walrus Stalking allowed in England.......:cool: :?:
     
  9. SamSam
    Joined: Feb 2005
    Posts: 3,899
    Likes: 200, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 971
    Location: Coastal Georgia

    SamSam Senior Member

    One other problem with making a shipping container shantyboat, on the outside there is no bottom. The plywood floor on the inside is all there is besides the steel beams every foot or so that support it. Sam
     
  10. SheetWise
    Joined: Jul 2004
    Posts: 279
    Likes: 54, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 658
    Location: Phoenix

    SheetWise All Beach -- No Water.

    Cut it in half (horizontally) -- 8x4x80, or 16x4x40. You've got at least two ready made bulkheads that are hinged!
    Build something with less weight on top of it.
     
  11. gonzo
    Joined: Aug 2002
    Posts: 16,815
    Likes: 1,726, Points: 123, Legacy Rep: 2031
    Location: Milwaukee, WI

    gonzo Senior Member

    We do learn. Reinventing the wheel is more expensive than buying a used one. The amount of work and money on cutting, welding and modifying a container is higher that buying a used barge or boat.
     
  12. ted655
    Joined: May 2003
    Posts: 640
    Likes: 14, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 122
    Location: Butte La Rose, LA.

    ted655 Senior Member

    I'm not sure about the carbon content in the steel. Longevity might be shorter. I'd use coal tar epoxy for the coating.
    Start with 2 8"-10" I beams longer than the container length. sit them on something cheap but smooth & flat for this will be the bottom of the boat. Plastic over graded clay (not sand), or 1/4" sheets of OSB. Weld from these the upturned frames for the bow & stern. Set them "in" 2' from the container edge. Add proper dross gracing between the 2 I beams add rebar & wire. Pour this space full of concrete fore to aft. Now you have a "ballast keel and a concrete bottom. Then add cross beams every 2' to the top of the beams & and fasten (bolt & weld) the container to them. This keeps the ballast weight LOW 7 Inboard from the edges of the container.
    Inside, add 18' SUBFLOOR. sAME DRILL INSIDE. kEEP YOUR TANKS IN THE CENTER & AIR SPACE TOWARDS THE EDGES. eXTEND THE AFT STRAIGHT OUT FLAT ENOUGH TO MAKE THE ENGINES FIT THERE. tHEN SWEEP UP TO SUIT A PLEASENT LOOK. aDD THE RUDDER TUBE, DECK OVER AND MAKE IT SELF DRAINING. bOW GETS A CHAIN LOCKER & THE SAME LINES.
    gIVE THE TOP A dUTCH BARGE OR FORWARD PILOT HOUSE CUT. rEMOVE THE REST, DECK OVER AND ADD RAILS. This helps the looks & that topheavy feel.
    a LOVELY LITTLE DUCK ISN'T SHE!! yOU GOT ME ENTHUSED BUDDY, i'M INTO IT!(sorry, I hit the caps lock).:D
     
  13. ted655
    Joined: May 2003
    Posts: 640
    Likes: 14, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 122
    Location: Butte La Rose, LA.

    ted655 Senior Member

    ted655@fastmail.fm
    Hi Ken.
    Hey, I'd like to kick this idea around. It's a great idea. So if you need a bud & want to bounce ideas back & forth, mail me.
    I think it was you who posted on the shantyboat group. My wife & I are searching for canal boats right now. We may buy one used or a "sail away" (motorized shell) over there and stay and cruise awhile. BUT.. now I'm infected with this idea!
    Thanks, Ted.:D
     
  14. Hammersmith
    Joined: Mar 2005
    Posts: 3
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: London, UK

    Hammersmith New Member

    I work with the crew of Scrapheap Challenge' (Junkyard Wars in the US) and they tell me the Chinese are building containers so cheap that it's not worth shipping them back empty from the UK. Tilbury has over 10,000 laying around the yards, and the price is at scrap, (under 400 pounds sterling). If a way could be found to coat them with old car tyres and power them with discarded mobile phones we could be on to a winner!

    Richard
    db Gideon, Hammersmith UK
     

  15. ted655
    Joined: May 2003
    Posts: 640
    Likes: 14, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 122
    Location: Butte La Rose, LA.

    ted655 Senior Member

    :D No kidding, thats for sure. Disposable diapers could figure in there somewhere. lol.
     
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.