Lol, Warwick. thanks. Until recently I've been putting 2 mooring lines on Sid ... but then I stopped. Bowlines shouldn't undo? Mistake. I know better. You've probably read my facebook stuff about rowing up to Soldiers Bay to get Sid, tied with many ropes by Harbour board to the mooring mid-channel, Sid lying way over looking like a derelict, port float submarined with 3 compartments h2o filled. In a day of mistakes one plus was that I had underwater 2 part epoxy (Emerkit) cement on board which, after towing Sid ashore nearby (not easy with fresh wind and very heavy float) and baling out, fixed the long split in the float so I could get home.