Tris and Proas - realtive lengths of vaka and ama

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Anatol, Jun 1, 2015.

  1. upchurchmr
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    upchurchmr Senior Member

    So what exactly do you want different?
    Can't tell from the preceeding discussion.

    I've never seen the "About Face" do you have a link?
     
  2. lucdekeyser
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  3. P Flados
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    You seem to be getting closer to letting us know what you really want. If I throw out some choices, it might help narrow things down some more.

    Choice 1: A practical boat that you hope to get a lot of use out of. You are willing to take on a decent size project, but you don't feel you can make a big up front investment:

    This sounds like a cruiser. For a cruiser, you really want assurance of a good functioning boat for all of your work.

    I would strongly recommend not taking on a "do it yourself" design unless you really know what your are doing. An existing design with minimal changes, or a new design with competent help are very much the right choice.

    To do this right, it will probably cost you more time & money than you realize. Buying a second hand boat is the "low dollar" option. If not, you should convince yourself to be honest and focus on getting adequate finances lined up from the start.

    Choice 2:

    You really want to try designing on you own, but you do not have plenty of cash/time to throw at the project.

    Think about working your way up. Start with a smaller "day sailor" that is not really built to last. I took this approach when I slapped together a small proa and my http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/small-tri-test-platform-51551.html. Lots of learning and not lots of cash. It really opens your eyes to how hard it is to get it all to work together.

    Choice 3:

    You really want a performance proa.

    As another choice, have you considered Rob Denny's Bucket List (http://http://harryproa.com/). It sounds like there would be an option for a "more cruiser" (i.e. less racer) version. If you could afford it, you would probably get better performance that any other proa you can point to. If you go this way and find it to be fun but "too much" for your style, selling it to get back some of your investment would be a real possibility.
     

  4. Anatol
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    Anatol Senior Member

    "You seem to be getting closer to letting us know what you really want."

    I didn't mean to be evasive :) I really want to design and build this boat. I'm just not a 'buy it off the shelf' guy. I'm not a naval architect but I've been designing and building stuff all my life, I've been around boats a long time and I have a good intuitive feel for engineering. That's not to say I won't do something stupid;) But this is an experimental platform. I have a few experimental ideas, and I'm so glad to have this forum to bounce them off smarter and more experienced folks. I want to build a fast day sailer/coastal cruiser, in ply/glass, probably with alu tube cross beams. Not a blue water boat or a racer. Focus is on optimal performance from easy-build techniques.

    "To do this right, it will probably cost you more time & money than you realize."
    Right, but if I knew than I wouldn't start. That is, I realise that I don't realise it, and I'm fine with that - been there many times before :)
     
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