The "NANCY G" a surfboat /lifeboat to motorsailer conversion build in progress

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  1. hoytedow
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    I like that raven! If Viking north doesn't want to use it, it might make good nose art on my wee craft.
     
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    Go for it Hoyt, you just can't have my new Flag :D
     
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    That flag will be perfect for our fleet! It reminds me of the Dixon and Keith tartans.
     
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    I plan to re name the Vega Fenrir the Norse wolf that will defeat Odin at the end of time. The name appeals to me on many levels but most importantly it seems like an apt name for an oceanic voyaging sailboat big in heart and serious in attitude.
     
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    Happy New Year to you, Scunthorp. A high spirited Ulfr seems most appropriate.
     
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    Pericles- see what a chain reaction you've started, Hoyt is turning Viking and wants to build a fleet of marauding ships, John is gone more Celtic and wants to change history by having the Irish attack the raiding Vikings. Me, I just want to replace the (Irish )Republic of Newfoundland flag with one the true discoverers of North America assigned it. Columbus and Cabot will never be looked at in the same light again :p

    Happy New Year All ---Geo. (George)
     
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    Gentlemen,

    Glad to be of help. That Vinland flag is just the business.

    My youngest son & I had our DNA tested 30 months ago by "23&me" & we found that his mother Nancy's maternal line (U2e) had features that enabled us to trace her line back to a Danish women who lived in the NE of England around Newcastle & Durham circa 900 AD. At that time the area was part of the Danelaw. As we have sons, it means that that direct Viking immigrant descent dies with Nancy. My mother's line (J1C1) stuttered out with my brother & me, although his wife's line continues to their daughter who will now only have one expensive IVF son born 14 weeks ago. Thus do bloodlines serve their time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA#Female_inheritance

    Assuming 4 generations per 100 years, my sons could lay claim to Óðin's raven, being 44th generation Viking, but there are so many wonderful images that one will never be enough. I rather favour the Valknut.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin#mediaviewer/File:Odin_rides_to_Hel.jpg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=v...CAYQ_AUoAQ#tbm=isch&q=viking symbols&imgdii=_

    Whilst, my middle son's middle name is Saxon, I just could not get Dane or Norman past the missus for the other two. I absolutely refused Phrasier or Frasier, so had to compromise. Hell's teeth, but it was a close run thing.:D

    I am thinking of naming my next boat Thames Scramasax.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seax_of_Beagnoth

    Here is my flag, the symbol of Middlesex (Middle Saxon). Actually, it should really be Ashley's flag as his three forenames are Ashley Saxon David http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex#mediaviewer/File:FlagOfMiddlesex.PNG

    History is fun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex

    Best regards,

    Perry
     
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    Back To Boatbuilding

    Pericles, I have a very detailed and interesting book on the genetics of Great Briton somewhere in my collection on that very topic. I will forward the name and author as soon as I dig it out. Meanwhile back to the reality of the task at hand, "Boat Building" and upon sober thinking, as much as i am excited by it's discovery, a flag doesn't seem to fit into the theme, so I have decided it will flutter here no more but be replaced by my rendering of my Ancient Grandfathers Heel Tapper Schooner. What better tribute to his hard work of over 200 years ago. Speaking of Boat Work, Some time ago PAR recommended I should reduce weight as much as possible overall but especially in the aft areas. One area pointed out was not to fill the taper section (cutout) between the fin and the skeg with the resin/stone ballast that I was planning to install. About 3 AM this morning I think I have come up with a very suitable light weight but strong replacement. My first " Light Bulb in the night" of 2015. Things are looking good :D Over the next week or so I will investigate this new idea and post the results.
     
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    Perry "Thames Scramasax" might be a bit of a mouthful when sending a MAYDAY.

    George "PAR recommended I should reduce weight as much as possible overall but especially in the aft areas" was this a personal remark or reference to the Nancy G?

    Yes a new boat season is upon us stuff must get done, goals must be set, time to get on it...
     
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    An idle afternoon.

    There were these large pieces of cardboard left over from a delivery from Ikea. I had Sellotape, a tape measure, a craft knife & a bit of time on my hands as the roast gammon with all the trimmings looked after itself in the oven.

    At 30 mm to the foot I roughed out a 22 footer hull with deep V & wide chine flats. The beam at the sheer is 9 feet & 7 feet at the waterline. An outboard well for a 60 hp Evinrude E-Tec, 4 feet of freeboard from bow to stern with a straight sheer, using 18 mm marine ply & built the way Walter Baron builds his Lumber Yard Skiffs, sides & transom first, then the flat bottom nailed on. However, I am modifying his skiff with a deep V.

    I purchased a set of plans from him for $60 including postage, which he shipped to me on 27th July 2012; it was sale 694. Previously, I had purchased the plans for both the DE 25 & the LB 26 from Jacques at Bateau. com, but did nothing with them, however in the intervening 5-6 years I've had plenty of time to mull over things. I've got a file 2" thick filled with sketches & I'm not getting any younger. I can build the hull starting mid March, using 14 sheets of 8 x 4 of 18 mm marine ply & complete the hull in about 2 weeks because I have 3 strapping sons to lift, cut, position, stitch, clamp, sand, fair, spray & with 4-5 of their mates, turn over the 300 kg hull when it's necessary. What could possibly go wrong?
     

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    Perry, The greatest motivator (*** kicker) 0n my project was to open a build thread. One attracts visitors with encouragement and questions. Both instill a responsibility to show progress. You have now committed to a start with the model and we expect to see movement long long before another 5 years have passed. Step #1 we would like to see a build thread started, ;) Step #2 we would like to see a set of plans posted, :) Step #3 a few piles of sawdust and small scrap pieces of wood would really show you are walking the talk :D Hopefully the little faces will show our reaction to each task completed. Tomorrow will be the second day of 2015 already, only 363 days remaining in this year so ???? Oh and I am ready with my first question on your new thread regarding your build material. Plus building a boat is good for the soul :D--- Geo.
     
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    Scunthorp, both could use it :p
     
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    George,

    It's coming up to 5-30 am here. I thought I'd take a look at this thread. My makeshift model is only 13 hours old & now you want me to disassemble it?

    You are right, of course. Next stage is to refine the hull components by constructing another version in model aircraft ply over the next couple of days. Then I have a metric table of offsets with station intervals of 300 mm. As for plans, if I were to tell you that Walter Baron's consist of five sheets with the most rudimentary sketches that convey all the information necessary when viewed with the photographs at his site to build the hull, you'll see why the hull just comes together.

    http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_workskiffs.html

    Where Walter uses underlayment ply & sticky stuff, I shall use marine Ply & WEST System products & steam the chine logs & sheer clamps etc., as per Louis Sauzedde. Have you seen his videos?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--iPQIwSEJM

    The cabin will spring almost from the breasthook & sloped aft. There'll be an self draining anchor well & the height of the cabin superstructure will be 1.25 metres tall, so Elliott who is 6' 5" will not have to stoop. The Hellraiser 223 profile illustrates the general look of the cabin, which extend further aft, but leaving a self draining cockpit 11 feet long by 9 feet wide. My vessel is pointier, more shark like, with a flush. straight sheerline & deeper freeboard. The outboard well is to be enclosed & soundproofed.

    http://homepage.eircom.net/~orourkepj/HR223photos.htm

    Just recently, towing widths for boats in the UK have been increased from 2.5 metres to 2.9 metres (9' 6"), which is handy. Plans? Who needs plans? I'll just build it. What could possibly go wrong? I'm a jaynnnnious!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
     
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    Precisely why I don't have a build thread......

    PDW
     
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