designing a fast rowboat

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  1. NoEyeDeer
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    gfx = graphics

    And I already knew what GIGO meant. It's a variation of PIBCAK. :D
     
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    Hey someone has built that radical Gartside 17 footer.

    Paul Gartside designed rowing skiff

    I'm curious as to how it handles in rough water. Going to drop them an email and see if they have any feedback on it yet.
     
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    Appears more antique than radical.
     

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    That's because it is antique. Gokstad ship =/= Gartside skiff. :p
     
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    You don't see a resemblance in the hull forms?
     
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    No. Not really. If you look at them in detail they are quite different. About the only similarity is keel profile, up to a point, and the fact that both have pointed sterns. The sections are completely different.
     
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    They differ at the sheer where the skiff flares slightly. Of course the skiff doesn't have the tall stem and stern. Eye candy.
    The submerged areas look similar to me. Very wide shallow body.
     
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    They differ bloody everywhere. I suggest you get the lines for both and compare them.
     
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    you are correct.
    I was judging from the perspective of a couple of photos where the curves appeared similar.
    The eye deceives sometimes. :idea:
     
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    If you go back in time even further there is the Nydam Boat, a large seaworthy rowing boat for 30 oarsmen, with lines that bear resemblance to the lines of Gartside's 17ft Coastal Rowboat and the 16ft Open Water Cruising Skiff "Bob".

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    Comparisons

    When I took Boat Design with Paul Gartside at WoodenBoat School, he really impressed on me the effectiveness of designing a boat on the basis of comparison with other craft.

    As I design my fast Drake model, I think it's interesting to compare to his 17' coastal cruiser. His draft and BWL is about the same as mine at this point. But as a cruising rowboat, he needs the capacity for two rowers and gear. Whereas mine I only need to support my big butt and the boat plus maybe some light safety gear.

    I'd really like to row Paul's 17-footer to really dial in the comparison. Any performance reports from those builders?
     
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    Haven't heard back from them yet.
     
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    Couple more shots of my beast, taken this morning. Last night I got the final bits stuck on the boat (breasthook and rowlock blocks) so the boat is now officially built, for a certain limited definition of "built".

    Now all I have to do is make some oars and get all the sanding, painting and oiling done. I'll also make a passenger seat for it later, but am not worried about it at the moment.

    I'm quite pleased with the thing. It's a very elegant boat. :)
     

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    I really like it. Proportions look just right to my eye.
     
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