65m as Pleasure craft possible?

We agree, class get involved and then the grt determines the licences hence the builders keep class out of it and like magic the boat is 99grt according to the uscg so they can then reduce cost in a major way.
Hers's oen from a typcial fleet ( nothing as small as 150' any more)
http://harveygulf.com/assets/pdf/harvey_gulf_spec_sheets/Harvey Herd Rev 0.pdf

 

You're being remarkably obtuse. The tonnage of the vessel is used to determine who is qualified to man her regardless of whether the vessel is in class.

ABS employs the admeasurers who go out and inspect the vessel to make sure that it is constructed according to the plans. Engineers calculate the tonnage of a vessel in accordance to the plans and the tonnage rules. According to US law, tonnage assignment must be done for all documented vessels 79 feet and longer on international voyages or to which federal regulations apply which are based on tonnage. It does not matter whether the vessel is classed by ABS; ABS is merely acting as the agent for the Coast Guard.

ABS also is in charge of assigning load lines to US-flag vessels at the direction of the USCG. All vessels required and eligible to get a load line will receive one from the ABS regardless of classification status. ABS can also do plan review and approval on behalf of the USCG; this service is also done regardless of whether the vessel is classed by ABS. For all of these services, the owner is billed by ABS for their time spent.

Maybe graft and corruption are common in your part of the world, and phony ship's documents are not so unusual. However, in the US, forged or false documents can result in stiff fines if not jail time.

As far as the spec sheet for the M.V. HARVEY HERD is concerned, this sheet erroneously lists the vessel being 93 GRT (ITC). According to the US Coast Guard's Port State Information Exchange, the vessel has a gross tonnage of 702 ITC. The 93 GRT figure derives from the regulatory tonnage rules, which are different from the ITC and which have many loopholes that can and have been exploited by designers over the years.

 

Thanks!

I was confused by imagining it might be somewhere in your extensive range.

 

So now we can agree that the uscg rules are there for a reason re 99grt.
Can you now explain to the readers the manning requirements of a uscg 99grt vessel.
The gom is full of vessels like this and yet you can say there is a 3rd world in the osv industry, there is only one place in the world that has rules that bad and its the usa.
You do knowabout the special 6000t psv licence, that just confirms the 4th world status of the gom.
For the readers, thats just to allow a cheaper limited ticketed crew to drive a large vessel, not legal anwhere else in the world.

 

The USCG rules on manning vessels apply only to US-flag vessels. They are not intended to apply the world over, just like the manning rules for vessels flagged in Singapore, or Liberia, or wherever.

If a US-flag vessel is engaged in international voyages, then additional rules under IMO will apply to those mariners as well.

I don't know why you have such a bug about what does or does not happen in the GOM. Were you turned down for a job? Were you run over by an OSV?

Vessels operating in the GOM, sailing directly to and from a US port, also must comply with the Jones Act. These vessels must be US-flagged, crewed with US citizens, and built in US shipyards. This is a separate issue from the USCG manning rules.

Most of the OSVs in the GOM are operating within the EEZ of the United States, so what happens in the rest of the world with respect to vessel operations is irrelevant anyway. It's US waters and the US gets to decide what goes on there. And it's not like no one else has problems. South Korea basically just fired its entire Coast Guard over the ferry Sewol disaster.

 

Ok we agree
It is embarrassing to explain who is driving a 99grt 200' boat commercially in the usa

 

If that's what's bothering you, simply tell anyone who asks that you're not familiar with what goes on there.

You don't need to have been the captain of the QUEEN MARY to drive a 200' boat, whether its 99 GT or 700 GT. The tonnage number has been appropriated by the authorities, rightly or wrongly, as a means of classifying boats to determine who has the necessary minimum qualifications to serve as crew. I'm sure there's many a man who has worked on larger vessels who would not be comfortable serving aboard a small boat.

 

First, think for a second. Really?

Then, consider that yellow is legal too.

 

You can check that all four Disney cruise vessels hold the required SOLAS Passenger Ship Safety Certificates by checking the USCG Port State Information Exchange database:

https://cgmix.uscg.mil/psix/

All four vessels are flagged in the Bahamas and it appears that they are classed by Lloyds Register. Reportedly, IMO approved a variance in the SOLAS regulations to allow a bright yellow color for the lifeboats.

If you are going to operate a non-compliant vessel, don't name it after Disney and don't paint it bright colors.

 

I checked with Solas and cant find anything about the required color. A check on the LSA Code says only "1.2.2.6 be of a highly visible color on all parts where this will assist detection."

Maybe you can direct me to a specific link or rule that specify the approved color(s). Thanks.