Historical monohulls

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  1. Martin B.
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    Can not get too much lighter displacement for circa 1953 than a 22 square metre by the doyen of square metres - Knud Reimers.

    This is Flame, home-built in NZ kauri in a Perth Western Australia backyard and launched at RPYC in about 1954; shown here "cheating" a little bit with the addition of a non-standard jib topsail :(

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    She is about 38' long, only slightly over 6' beam and displacement of about 2.1 tonnes - that's light for 38' ;).
    Allegedly she was built to the same plans as A.S. "Jock" Sturrock's Sue Ann - Jock skippered the 12 metre Gretel in Aust's first tilt at "Ye olde Mug".

    Here is on a "Sunday cruise" in 1974 Flame, wearing a masthead rig during my ownership.

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    Regretably, she is now sitting in a shed minus deck and rapidly in need of a new carer to avoid a falling-out with a chainsaw by year's end.
    Such a tragedy would leave only one 22 square metre in Australia.

    [for lots of good 30 square metre pics see http://www.asqma.com/index.htm]
     

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  2. sharpii2
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    Wow, Martin.

    Whatever she may lack in practicality, she more than makes up for in elegance.
     
  3. Gary Baigent
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    Don Wood sent me these pages, scanned from 1957 Yachting World annual.
    Van de Stadt's Black Soo. Maybe a few Kiwi light displacement designers back then were very influenced by this boat?
     

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  4. Gary Baigent
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    Here is a famous Kiwi Rocketship, Jim Young's Extreme - getting a new paint job in Tauranga. This design was/and still is, decades ahead of its time, launched early/mid 1980's, wins everything in class and way above size range too, has a rack of line honours in Coastal Classic.
     

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    viking north VINLAND

    Shown here in 1974 at anchor and under sail is the famous 73ft. Ocean Racer Windigo at the start of her Newfoundland to Alaska voyage. Designed by Sparkman & Sephens, built by Henry Hinkley she was origionally named Venturer. I had the pleasure of sailing aboard this beautiful vessel for part of this voyage. It all started when i woke up early one morning and looked out my living room window and anchored in front of my house not a 1/4 mile away was this ghostly mirage.

    Credits --Newfoundland to Alaska --Captain Sandy Weld of which I have the distinction of being the topic of chapter 2, however sadly not necessarily for sailing skills :D
     

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  6. Tad
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    Hey Viking......I spoke to someone on Windigo's deck, probably the summer of 1975, in Bella Bella BC....was that you? I have no recollection of whether it was early or late in the season, or if she was heading north or south. I was deckhand on the fishpacker Nord and we were loading groceries from the BC packers store.
     
  7. viking north
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    viking north VINLAND

    No TAD, the last time I was aboard was in Marina Del Rey (L.A.) where she stopped to get a new main mast as a result of rigging failure in a storm in the Sea of Cortez. Great vessel but I never could get used to that dam gimbled table. Every time I took the gamble of trying I paid the price. :p (man up chucking). Other than Sandy I'm not sure who would be aboard in BC as there were many crew changes on the overall trip. Possibly Rick who I believe was first mate for the whole voyage. I just didn't have the money to keep going and had business responsibilities back in Newfoundland. Would have been great though as she also went out to Hawaii. However it would have been one hell of a coincidence if it were me and we made contact after all these years. :D
     
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  8. capt vimes
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    the chines on that boat do remind me of another pretty famous race boat from NZ...
    what was it again... right: ragtime! ;)
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  9. Gary Baigent
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    Mike Relling sent these photographs to Aaron Young who forwarded them on to Jim Young, who designed the Rocket 31 way back in 1980, the first of the sportsboats; Camp Freddie has now been extended to 35 feet ... looks okay fast to me.
     

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  10. Gary Baigent
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    Knud Reimers' 15 Square Metre "Vixen" - built 1937, restored 2011. Finer and lighter than the English 15 Meter boats of Uffa Fox's time and fame, This superb image from Classicsailboats.org.
     

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  11. Doug Lord
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    Georgia

    Gary, thanks very much for the Classic Sailboats link-didn't know about it. Still looking for my parents 60' Larchmont "O" boat Georgia.
     
  12. Gary Baigent
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    Also from classicsailboats.org; the 1894 One Rater.
    Linton Hope, an untrained boat designer, penned a light displacement skimmer Sorceress. Designed for the smooth waters of the Thames, she was a One-Rater, with enormous beam, low freeboard. She was to be sailed upright, to prevent water from filling the cockpit, she proved to be a winner, and soon to follow was the unballasted Half-Rater. She was extremely light and very fast, winning most of the YRA sanctioned events. Her fragile nature encouraged the YRA to alter the rules to ensure that future boats would be more seaworthy
     

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    gggGuest ...

    What a strange phrase! Its rather like saying 'Bruce Farr, an untrained boat designer'. Linton Hope (1863-1920) was a professional Naval architect and the predominant small boat designer in the late 19th/early 20th century. He was also consulting Naval Architect to the Air ministry and a very important figure in the early days of flying boats. There's a fair number of his designs still active even now...
     
  14. Gary Baigent
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    gggGuest, here is the original beginning quote from the classicsailboats.org piece:
    "Linton Hope, and untrained boat designed, penned a light displacement skimmer Sorceress."
    .... so I presumed the strange English was meant to read as how I re-typed it: "an untrained boat designer."
    Make sense?
    By the way, Bruce Farr worked with Jim Young as a young apprentice after leaving school, his training was his own extensive sailing and looking at what was going on around Auckland and his own ideas on improvements ... so he was "untrained" but trained in the best manner, which is self education and being mentally and visually aware - as well as being yacht design gifted.
    And the same would apply to Linton Hope. In the early 1890s he too would have been a young "untrained" man.
     

  15. Gary Baigent
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    Early (but after Young's Fiery Cross) pendulum keel design from Pascal Conq; 1982: this keel type on a Micro Cup design.
    Seems like they have keel to leeward here, plus crew to heel the boat in the light airs and also to get the stern out. What panache!
    from Voile et Voiliers.
     

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