Small, independant living units, on water ? - Possible ?

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  1. rwatson
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    Feel free to actually explain where my - or the USCG calculation errors are.

    Like all statistics - no data is 100% accurate - but its a lot better than mere opinion.
     
  2. Navygate

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    Rwatson,
    Sorry you're having a hard time understanding my posts.
    You are actually right, 100% perfect, unquestionably.
    End of hi-jacked distraction.
    My apologies to the OP.
    Don't worry, be happy, boat fires are actually incredibly rare.
    Phew, had me worried for a while there.
    :)
     
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    I think cities should have an anchor out community. Have ten plus vessels moored together and take turns doing shuttles to the shore. The downside is most people would be those willing to rent a cabin or berth, and likely not very responsible. It might offer the fun of a trailer park community and offer other couples to play cards with.

    I often thought capsule apartments would be great for singles to save down payments, and some boats could offer equally cheap accommodation provided they are older models and still seaworthy.
     
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    Uck.. Yes I could visualize some such. Too bad. I do like the idea of anchoring out. My city slip fees are as costly as an apartment rental. I'm surprised London can't clean that up with bylaws.
     
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    just illustrates the potential problems. the idea of independent waterbound living is hugely attractive in some (remote, low density) circumstances, but here a hugely expensive and competitive housing market forces people to look for alternatives. The demand for accommodation, combined with limited legislation and governance of moorings, and even more limited provision of facilities in this situation creates this floating slum twilight zone. Seems to me that the local authorities need to differentiate between short term and long term moorings, and provide adequate servicing, at a realistic price. Maybe long term moorings, particularly with sub-lets, should have some requirements for minimum standards of accommodation?
     
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    I cannot fathom why mooring is in such high demand and so expensive. I live in Toronto, and they could easily build more docks. It just seems like a few planks of wood covering barrels are becoming prime real estate.

    I would think the photos TT showed must be covered in some sort of bylaw. I think a boat should at least look garbage free from the outside.

    Edit: Someone should invent a boat that folds in half like a travel Bike so the mooring fees would be minimal. lol
     
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    Or they could just dock within sight of Colliers Wood Tower (I've seen pictures) and beautify the landscape. /attempted humor
     
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    If folks were willing to live in boat like volumes , an unskinned building with a hoist on top might host hundreds of std Sealand sized boxes converted to homes that were self contained.

    Poo folks would use a 20 to 40 ft container home , big buck$ could use double wide .

    Lower floors for shops and parking , upper for living containers.
     
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    Great example of doing it wrong, at the very least the operator of the barge featured could be described as some kind of "slum lord/criminal" preying on the desperate for acomodation. It would be easy to imagine loss of life arising from some aspect of the barges poor condition if not so already with some of the tenants going un-missed due to their circumstances.

    Jeff.

    PS: Years back we considered a narrowboat construction in Aus to import to UK as a vacation base/dwelling for later resale(containerised x2 pieces & joined + ballasted after arrival)..... looking at that article though it's not all sweet canals flowing gently through the meadow & mooring to the pier for dinner at the pub, I'm sure everywhere has it's less desirable aspects though.
     
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    Years ago, I lived on Waiheke island in New Zealand.

    The commute to work in Auckland was on a rugged little ferry that run every hour.

    If you could anchor a large ocean liner ( maybe with worn out engines ) off the coast , and run a good shuttle service, maybe that would be a good alternative ?

    But - it reminds me of another time that was tried.
    As far as slum accommodation on the water - London is well known for that. Anyone remember the HULKS, holding convicts on the river Thames ?
     

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    I've read accounts of the "hulks".......
    Seems they may still have them with prisoners of economic circumstance... History repeats?

    Jeff.
     
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