Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. oldsailor7
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    Cleveland.
    Did you get my PM. :?:
     
  2. Cleveland
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    OS7 i did thank you, weekend spent on the water. :)
     
  3. dunlin
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    I'm thinking of starting a bucaneer 24 build. does anyone have an idea how many hours I could expect for a basic as plan build?
     
  4. dunlin
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    I've been searching for some clear photos of a finished interior but can't seem to find any. Can anybody help with a link? I'm wondering how comfortable the design is for cruising solo for months at a time. ( sorry for the separate posts. I'm new and need to make 5 to send a PM)
     
  5. bruceb
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    Space

    Comfort level ;) Is all in your expectations. If you are a backpacker/bicycle camper, kayak camper, the 24 is huge, and it carries everything for you. You can put the kayak and bicycle on the tramps, store the backpack and still have plenty of space:) If you are expecting standing head room (inside) and a private head, not so much:( IMO,it is fine for a friendly couple for at least several days or more. A single person would have one decent bunk, lots of inside storage and a dry place to sit and cook. You could go a long time like that. The 24 is really easy to single or double hand, so the sailing is not an issue.
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  6. dunlin
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    I guess it is all about expectations, isn't it :) Standing headroom and an an enclosed head isn't on my list. The only thing I'd really want other than what you've described is a dry spot to "kick-back" when sanity requires. That spot would normally be a bunk but don't think I'm seeing anything close to sitting headroom there.
     
  7. bruceb
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    Build time?

    Again, what are your expectations and skill level.
    When OS7 was young :p he says he could build one in just over 600 hours. Now that he (and I) are not, about 800-1000 hrs seems reasonable. I didn't build mine, but I have rebuilt quite a lot of it, and I think the 850 hr build time is quite realistic for a somewhat experienced builder. The materials are for the most part very light and easy to handle, but occasionally, a helper would really be handy and speed things up a lot. I am also fairly sure that the Buc is by far the easiest and quickest to build of any multi close to its size and performance. The plans are simple to understand, and very complete. They do assume you already know how to measure, cut and fasten, and it helps to know marine/wooden boat terminology. It would help if you are already familiar with more modern materials, small sailboats and rigging. Some parts/details do need updating and adapted for US suppliers, materials and equipment.
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    Any idea idea of the rough dimensions of the cabin? 7ft x8ft with 2 1/2 ft of floor?
     
  9. dunlin
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    Thanks for chiming in here bruceb. Measure/cut /fasten shouldn't be a problem. Not a pro (or as young as i used to be either) but I've built a few smaller boats before and general fabrication skills a pretty strong. 2 years part time to make a real nice job of it seems realistic? The design seems to check every box I have for a light weight trailerable coastal cruiser.
     
  10. bruceb
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    size matters?

    Dunlin, As I recall, a "typical" cabin, (there are several variations, and these are "custom" boats) is about 7'8" wide, with two six foot bunks and some extra space under the forward cabin windows/slope. The dagger trunk is at the forward end of the cabin sole, but there is space to either side that is big enough for a seat/sink/stove,storage, but not all of them. Pick two ;). A seat, porto poti, or ice chest can also be under the companion way. Head room is about 54" under the sliding hatch, and head room over the bunks is about 24" at the cabin side. It feels bigger than it looks in pictures or drawings. I have added float hatches for storage of light bulky items, and the bow area under the forward hatch is large, but not very easy to access under way or in bad weather. There is storage under the cockpit sole and at the stern.
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  11. bruceb
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    easy and quick

    :rolleyes: I think most people would find two years reasonable, and you might very well catch "builderitis" and get it finished quicker, at the expense of yard work, family and friends. IMO, these boats are best finished more work boat grade than yacht, as then you are not afraid to use it, modify it, and use it some more:) (Unless of course you would rather sand and paint than sail) Each to his own, but I like to sail.
    They are trailerable, but only after spending the better part of one day assembling or dismounting it!!! I do it every year, mostly by myself, but it is not the kind of job you would do for just a weekend trip. My boat, equipment and dual axle trailer are around 2600 lbs, so most larger SUVs and such have no problem pulling it.
    I think it would be at home anywhere on the US east or gulf coasts.
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  12. dunlin
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    Definatly sailing over sanding(and trailering) :) The trailering requirement is more about the ability to get the boat to warmer waters to escape winter for a while is I can than day sailing. PM sent to oldsailer7 about a plan set. Ready to get this started.
    Any opinions on how sea-kindliness if someday I had the urge to venture out a little further?
     
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    Hi, when you said 800-1000 hours is for a finished boat, including all furniture? Ready to go around?
     
  14. oldsailor7
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    Yes 800 hrs is easy to achieve with good planning and a helper to hold things and sweep the floor.:rolleyes:
     

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    An often requested question is --"what is the difference between the Mk1 and the Mk2 B24."?
    The only difference is the size of the cabin.
    The Mk2 is wider and longer than the Mk1. This gives a bit more room for the bunks and storage. As a result the Mk2 cabin overhangs the cockpit floor by a few inches, which I found makes a nice protected place to put the compass, or other instruments, without compromising foot room in the cockpit.
    With the Mk2 the jib sheet tracks have to be bolted onto the top of the cabin roof. On the Mk 1 they are on the side walkway adjacent to the cabin sides.
    I built my own B24 with the Mk2 cabin length and the Mk1 cabin width, because I wanted mine predominately for racing, and the jib track outside of the narrower cabin gave a closer jib angle for windward sailing, and a lower tack position for the Genoa. Worked well for me. :D
     
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