Quick - Fish the Pacific before it is too contaminated

Maybe I shouldn't start another doomsday thread, but I was browsing through the 'grow your own food-fish videos', and I saw this link below.

Excerpts like
'Fukishima - 7 times worse than Chernobyl',
'Plankton through to Tuna taking up radioactivity',
'farmers wont eat the food they sell',

......and a whole lot of other wrist slashingly despondent news. I thought it may be important to know about.

Just what we need to lie awake late at night.

Enjoy





http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/12/the-urgent-fukushima-video-everyone-needs-to-see.html


Oh - and the latest news of the not so solved problem since 2011 - major meltdown in progress ??

 

The fish should be easy to find -- they'll glow in the dark.

But on a more serious note, has anyone spotted Godzilla or Mothra coming up Tokyo Bay?

Now where did I put my Geiger counter?

 

hahaha- fishing with a Geiger counter, the ultimate solution.

Shame is, we may need to take one to the local fishmarkets when we go shopping.

This stuff is so sneaky - you dont get cancer for 30-40 years, and even then, it cant be proved to be from fallout.

Like spent uranium shells in Iraq

"US Radiation In Iraq Equals 250,000 Nagasaki Bombs "
http://rense.com/general66/equals.htm

Dont worry about the Iraqi's - there are thousands of radiated US troops now.

 

actually all plant foods and most animal food products have naturally occring radio active isotopes. It has always occurred naturally in the soil, and it most deep well water, where the plants grow, including animal feed. Livestock eat the feed and also take on radio active isotopes. Some places have higher concentration of naturally occuring radio active isotopes in the water and soil than others.

Just because they can detect radio activity in ocean fish is not new, nor is it necessarily dangerous. It is the level and concentration of it that matters, and the amount of exposure. You can safely tolerate larger doses if it only occurs occasionally, and much lower doses if continuously exposed.

radio activity has been part of our environment since the beginning of time, it has only been in the last 70 years or so could they actually measure it. so now everyone panics when they get measurements from modern sensitive detectors.

what we need to know is what level is it, and how does that compare to both normal background radiation and what level of exposure is considered safe.

 

Yes, its very true. The amount of radioactivity in the Pacific is considerable from the normally occurring radioctive decay in the minerals all around the pacific rim. Especially from volcanic sources.

I remember reading the effect of adding lots of contaminated water into the pacific, and the calculations made it look negligible. along the lines of this article
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukush...c-ocean-diluted-but-far-from-harmless/5360752

You get the really desperate approach like the one here
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...-fish-are-over-at-the-very-least-2748726.html

with
"Pacific herring in Canada bleeding from eyeballs, faces, fins, tails — I’ve never seen fish looking this bad — All 100 examined were bloody — Officials informed of hemorrhaging soon after 3/11 — Gov’t ignoring problem.

Unprecedented: Sockeye salmon at dire historic low on Canada’s Pacific coast — “We think something happened in the ocean” — “The elders have never seen anything like this at all” — Alaska and Russia also affected."

Maybe there is something in that, but no hard scientific data is quote, and with overfishing and general industrial pollution in the Pacific is so endemic that its hard to say its Fukushima.

Nuclear contamination on land is easier to contain, but in a world circling ocean, its a worrying scenario. Cumulative radioactive ingestion is a bit of a time bomb.

 

Every land mass on earth,will fit in the pacific ocean,with room left over.
I'm not spooked.

 

Yeah, but all the fish we eat, and the biomass that supports it is a much smaller percentage, and it accumulates radioactive contamination.

This isnt just our food problem, its the breeding/living ecosystem that supports life on our planet. eg plankton and oxygen etc

 

Balderdash. You could eat the fish in Fukishima Harbor today (well I wouldn't). The raised levels on the US Pacific coast was from the immediate fallout and is still measurable in cow's milk etc. None is anywhere near levels harmful to human health or fish health or the health of marine mammals. People just freak out when you say the R word. You'd get more radiation eating a banana than a 300 lb. tuna.
Also as a life long salmon fisherman I can assure you that (aside from Oregon & California) Pacific coast salmon stocks have remained at unprecedented levels for two decades now. And I mean unprecedented since well before European arrival. Modern fisheries management in Alaska, British Colombia and Washington is unsurpassed. Oddly enough fishery managers are finding the cesium released by Fukishima to be an unexpected blessing in their ability to study long lived pelagic fish.

 

Thanks Nate
I was happily sitting here eating a banana when I read that.

Apparently if you walk into a nuclear facility with a pocket full of walnuts you will set off the alarms.

Poida

 

we wife's late grandfather was the dean of physics a the University of Missouri for 25 years, he assisted in developing the first means of measuring radio activity at MIT as an undergrad, and brought that knowledge to UM as a full professor. He was one of the early pioneers of nuclear chemistry, consulted with the Navy, US government, etc. Before he passed away about 20 years ago he told stories during family gatherings of demonstrating this "new" ability to measure radio activity when he was a young professor in the 1930's from tap water at various universities. Showing how most of our food stuff you could measure radio activity from and even most humans. he was an expert witness in a famous case where they hired women to paint luminous numbers on the faces of clocks using radioactive paint. As the women one by one got sick, and than died, people suspected the paint was poisonous. to deflect attention away from the employer they released a lie as a rumor that these young women were dying from venereal disease, a major scandal at the time. the prosecutor hired my wife's grandfather to measure radio activity in their remains, and found it so high that today their body would have had to go to a radioactive waste processing site. They absorbed so much radiation before they died that their remains today would be considered hazardous. waste.

He said that he always suspected that the normal low level background radio activity that has always been normal to human existence has had some effect on the development of human society, either good or bad. meaning there may have been some beneficial effects, but certainly that its presence would have had some long term effects that would be difficult to separate from having a radiation free environment, which has never happened.

 

Of course. It's one of the ways mutations occur. For good and ill....

PDW

 

Not according to this news

"Fish with deadly levels of radioactive cesium have been caught just off the coast of Fukushima prefecture, as scientists continue to assess the damage caused to the marine food chain by the 2011 nuclear disaster.

One of the samples of the 37 black sea bream specimens caught some 37 kilometers south of the crippled power plant tested at 12,400 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, making it 124 times deadlier than the threshold considered safe for human consumption, Japan's Fisheries Research Agency announced. "

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-fish-cesium-radiation-548/

 

Does the radioactive cesium distribute into all the edible parts of the fish?

 

Yes you have me there rwatson. I was really speaking with nothing to substantiate that statement, hence my "well I wouldn't". My point remains that most radioactivity quickly breaks down in the sea or is diffused into the vastness of the Pacific. Of course some of it like cesium remains for centuries.
A fish found 37 kilometers south with deadly levels surprises me. Then again he may have swam there. I'm not trying to belittle the tragedy that is ongoing in Fukishima but it is a fairly local one. The "sky is falling" rhetoric propagated on social media lately would be laughable save that misinformation can decimate the livelihoods of so many. A case in point would be the woman who died after eating a can of salmon with a large hole in it. The resulting botulism scare grossly depressed salmon prices for a decade.
Just sayin'
Edit to add that I'm obviously not an expert on radiation (or the local effects near Fukishima) but am loosely repeating the rebuttals of the true experts to the hyperbole circulating lately. Unfortunately most of the people won't take the time to google it preferring to be outraged.

 

Any herring I have seen have been fine,and as for salmon runs don't get me started on that...............