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Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by kach22i, Mar 30, 2006.

  1. ancient kayaker
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    ancient kayaker aka Terry Haines

    - something to do with whaling perhaps?
     
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  3. PAR
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    The pinky sterned boats fell out of fashion fairly quickly, except for it's aesthetic considerations. The square sterned Hampton, as well as other "relitives" proved better load carriers and the pinkie contrivance was tossed over the side.

    It's very likely the pinkie feature is left over from decorative barges (utility craft), used in colonial times. Admiralty documents the Pinnace as a pretty standardized type of the era and a whale boat cousin. The trailboards of the pinkie feature, are remnants of the "waist" cloth (or plank), used to offer protection to the oarsmen, possibly to protect the helm too. These waistcloths would have been carried from stem to stern post on the working pinnace, which were used as ferries and local cargo haulers. The strong sheer sweep aft got the helmsman reasonable vantage over the oarsmen, cargo, guests and/or passengers. It seems entirely likely the waistcloth was cut back to just the stern quarter, to protect the guy on the steering stick in sailing versions.

    If you come down at your usual time George, I'll be finished with the Tancook spars, though hell yeah, if you could strap a couple maybe three 8" or better 35'ers on your RV, say at the middle to end of February (I'll be back in the steady 80's by then and the flowers will be popping and I'll have to mow the damn grass again), yep, that would be great.
     
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    Par , had never thought about the similarities pinnace / pinky

    I was surprised by the pic posted by V North. To me that is a rather unusual pinky for two reasons; the point of max beam very far aft and the very high displacement and full midsection (volume carried deep, almost no garboard hollow, very low bilges)

    The last pic in the post by angelique i consider to be a "character" boat, not really in keeping with the original pinky at all.

    In the attached pic is what i always considered to be a more "typical " pinky; moderate disp, quite fine underwater (sorry no pic underwater) broadest just for'rd of midships or even midships, fairly high bilges, decent deadrise.
     

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  5. PAR
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    There's certainly an evolution involved with these shapes. The early versions still fell under the "Cod's Head" rule of understanding, employed by the northern Europeans that immigrated to the colonies. Refinement through the end of the 18th century and the early 19th, partly from slaver and pilot cutter influence helped refine these shapes. Slaver and revenue/pilot cutter shapes were a revelation to the Admiralty, when lines were taken, but "they knew better" and stuck with their cod's head designs, while the American "up starts" kicked their butts in all aspects of speed and maneuverability. This British trait carries well into the early America's Cub campaigns (stubborn, if stiff upper lip sailors, I guess) to the late 19th century.

    Back to the pinky, the early versions didn't need speed, so much as capacity and easy rowing, so a fairly bluff entry was used, with a long run. The long run could immerse, gaining lots of displacement, while still offering reasonable buttock angles. The bluff bow could handle the volume and the boat kind of rotated about it. As sail and competition became more prevalent, plus the influence of the "sharp ended models" as Chapelle called them, displacement was moved aft, pulling volume out of the bluff bow, easing it's entry. As these models emerged, the traditional pinkies started moving to square stern whale boat shapes, like pinnaces (whaleboat, longboat, Chebacco, etc.) and the shallops (Hampton, Crotch Island, Tancook, etc.).

    This evolution is pretty convoluted, but the cocked up trailboards used on some, may have had a use in the bluff bow versions, but not so much in the refined later versions. As to the Yarmouth, George posted on the previous page, she looks to be a transition boat, still carrying her displacement forward, but not as badly as early versions and obvious effort has been made to fine up her entry. I would think designers of the era moved in little steps, creeping the volume aft a little in each model, until the boat stopped preforming well.
     
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    hehe... :)
    this guy obviously hasn't read douglas adams:
     
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    That is what not having depth perception will lead to.
     
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    I would query how he got to that age in one piece, not as if he's just young and stupid ! :rolleyes:
     
  11. ancient kayaker
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    ancient kayaker aka Terry Haines

    I have to admire his form though, arms straight in front, feet close together, proper angle, confdent strong take-off etc. If only the water hadn't been quite so far away. Of course, it looks awfully shallow, so maybe he was lucky to have a dry landing after all . . .

    If anybody knows his name we could submit it for the much coveted Darwin prize, probably this years first candidate. While he's still alive . . .
     
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    Narrowing down the focus of the gene pool, is the primary function of mother nature. She let this one go for now, though he seems the type that will eventually force her hand.
     
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    ^^^"Hold my beer..."^^^


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    hey guys been a while thought i would post up a little local spot we go to
     

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