Making the basic blueprint of Nautor Swan 70-007

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  1. andreysc7
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    andreysc7 New Member

    Hi guys,

    I am new here and I guess that I should start by saluting you.
    I am Andrei Cornea, 3D graphic designer and yesterday I have received an unexpected project from a client/friend.

    He want to build a boat, based on the Nautor Swan 70-007 and my tasks are the following :

    - I need to make the 2D construction blueprints

    This is the most difficult part for me, because I don't have the exact dimensions of the frame parts. I would like to start with the frame and this is why I am posting here, because I would like to know what kind of aluminum bars should I use, what dimensions, what's the length between the parts . etc. Example below :

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    I will use AutoCAD to make the blueprints, because I am used with this software, I have used it during my studies at school (architecture)

    - I also need to make the 3D presentation :
    3D modeling (interior/exterior) , texturing , rendering , etc. This is not a problem at all for me

    So, what are your recommendations ? because you know, the first questions will be :

    - What aluminum bars should I use (what dimension)
    - What is the dimension between these parts :
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    I will be really grateful if you guys can help me with the dimensions and tips. I promise that I won't forgot and at the end of the project I will mention that I have got support from this forum
     
  2. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    Whoa !!!!

    You need the engineering, scantling package for a high performance 70 footer. You wont get anything usable by asking around on the internet.

    You need to step back and contact a naval architect before you waste to much of your time.

    A 70 footer is a complex expensive build.

    If you were building a 20 footer you could ask around and formulate a best guess...not a 4 million euro build
     
  3. andreysc7
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    andreysc7 New Member

    Soooo, there is no even 1 chance to do it ? I have some time to do it, around 2 years but I want to start with the right foot.

    This is why I have asked about what materials and parts should I use, the dimensions and so on :(
     
  4. andreysc7
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    And by the way, I only need to make the blueprints, and later and engineer will take a look on the plans so, if there will be any problems, I will modify them. I just need a point to start
     
  5. pdwiley
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    pdwiley Senior Member

    There's a good to excellent chance that hull design is subject to copyright. What you're proposing to do is abet the violation of that copyright.

    Your friend should either buy a set of plans and pay the design fee, or pay a naval architect to 'design me something that looks like this'.

    As for the scantlings, if you don't know the sizes required, you're not competent to do more than make pretty pictures of a boat, sorry.

    PDW
     
  6. andreysc7
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    andreysc7 New Member

    Yes you are right, I have made several researches this week-end and I have already sent an email to my client about copyrighting and I have checked the complexity of this project.
    I cannot do it on the technical side and if he will agree, I can take part at the designing process (modeling & rendering) . When the renders will be done, it will be better if he will consult a boat builder or a naval architect who may have a positive/negative answer about the design.

    Then, the builder will take care of the boat.
     
  7. pdwiley
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    pdwiley Senior Member

    Very good decision in my opinion. Best of luck with it all.

    PDW
     

  8. Tanton
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    Tanton Senior Member

    Troubling. Wanting a German Frers Design, why not ask him? Even German is probably tied up with Swan over not to duplicate too closely his own plans. Why not your client? I am sure you can dabble with the rendering later or during the phase of construction.
     
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