Calculating the speed

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  1. huntermike32
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    how do i calculate the speed of a boat compared with its horsepower and boat weight and size. thanks
     
  2. Jango
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    Jango Senior Enthusiast

    I have found the following Formulas quite accurate.


    MPH = Sq rt (Prop HP divided by Gross weight) X Hull Factor


    Hull Factors

    180 - Heavy Deep V bottoms

    200 - Fast shallow V bottoms

    220 - Stepped bottoms or Fast Cats

    Hope this is of some help, John
     
  3. RANCHI OTTO
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    RANCHI OTTO Naval Architect

    This method is based on several sea trial results.
    The speed coeff. is KR=(BHP)^0.551/(Displ)^0.476
    This is only a rough estimation but I hope interesting for you

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  4. cyclops
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    The Glen-L boat design pages had a simple curve for various horsepower and weight V hulled runabouts. It predicted my 220 hp 19' bowrider to within 2 mph.
     
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    ok so on glen l they did not have my exact boat so to estimate the speed i would find the square root of hp divided by weight then multiply that by the 180 for the deep v design

    it would look like this square root of (50hp/800lbs.) multiplied by 180 for the deep v design = 45
     
  6. Jango
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    Yes you are correct, but keep in mind.

    1. Gross weight includes Boat, Motor, fuel, gear and passengers.

    2. Prop HP is HP at the output shaft, not Brake HP. ( I believe for outboards, B.I.A. Certified HP is Prop HP)

    Also, calculated results assume Optimum Prop and All conditions Ideal. In other words - Max. Speed.


    Note: My GlenL "Monoco" with a Hull Factor of 200 calculates to within 1 mph of actual speed.

    sq rt ( 350 / 2350 ) X 200 = 77.2 MPH
     
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    That's because they used your boat to make the chart.
     
  8. RANCHI OTTO
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    the inputs are of the above formula are:

    Vk = speed (knots)
    Displacement (tons)
    BHP= metric horspower
     
  9. Jango
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    The GlenL Chart does NOT at all come close to the calculated and actual Speed of my Monoco.

    Using the chart shows a Speed of 62 mph, whereas both calculated and Actual Speed is 77+ mph.

    The chart does NOT take into consideration various Bottom configurations. Appears fairly close for Deep Vee's only.
     
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    you can go here to use this calcutator.. http://www.racedaymarine.com/speed.htm
     
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    Jango. Your bottom at the rear becomes almost flat. Right?
     
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    Yes, Cyclops. About a 3 1/2 deg deadrise.
     
  13. RHough
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    RHough Retro Dude

    Gotta love Glen-L.

    I'm building a Dyno-Mite with a 15HP Merc. Glen-L says the boat should weight about 125# ...

    125# Hull
    125# Engine, controls, etc
    330# two people

    580# all up with 15HP = 32MPH
    415# with one person = 38MPH

    Woo-hoo!

    The reality is that a 10.5" pitch prop is the highest pitch that I can find, so at max RPM with 9% slip the engine makes about 27MPH ...

    For 15HP and 27MPH the boat can weigh 800#

    It isn't going to go any faster no matter how light I build it.
     
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    How is the acceleration?
     

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    Jango. At the speeds you can run. Have you ever heard of Chine Walking or Hooking? They are very real and common where you are in speed. And not a live to talk about it after it happens. ------Surf over to --www.iboats.com --register in the forums and do a search of chine walking. First hand report from another overpowered boat driver.
     
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