reasons not to use high-performance diesels

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines' started by Joris, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. powerabout
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    diesels make more power and with better economy than gas/petrol engines per #/BTU or whatever you want to measure it by.

    A petrol can make more power with less capacity thats its only claim to fame and that only works to a certain size 'cylinder' hence we dont have large petrol engines do we
     
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  4. El_Guero

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    No. You should have said turbine ....

    :)
     
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    I dont get that?
    are you saying a diesel powered turbine is more efficient that a gas piston engine?
     
  6. El_Guero

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    Turbines run kerosene, JP4. Something like diesel. But, more expensive.

    And yes, turbines are efficient, and expensive.

    Diesels are usually more efficiently applied to a project. But, turbines, especially combined cycle turbines, can be more efficient.
     
  7. El_Guero

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    So, if you took one of those fancy DE systems and replaced it with an efficient combined cycle turbine, you could see significant savings.

    For our purpose let us imagine a 800 hp equivalent. 90 foot catamaran yacht.

    The DE system with a good Diesel can exceed .40% thermal efficiency. And about 94% electric efficiency - more expensive this way.

    The Combined Cycle Turbine can achieve 55% efficiency times .94 on the electric.

    .52% vs. .38% I think the engine weights would be close to the same. But, I expect the Combined Cycle to be heavier.

    The electric can achieve 96%. And the turbine can probably be tweaked to 60%.

    Augment with some solar panels, and we start the old argument all over again about cost vs. affordability.
     
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    My understanding is the efficiency of gas turbines typically drops significantly at part load.
     

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    and creating electricity to power an electric motor to power a shaft is about 30% less efficient than having that same engine coupled to the shaft
     
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