Climate change falsehood

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  1. Herr Kaleun
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    I have spoken to many people lately about population and humankind as a whole. Many of those individuals are of the mind that humankind is the blight on the apple of the earth.

    However, if global warming was designed to reduce population, then who is the designer?
    Us? Sort of shooting ourselves in the foot, would you not say? Kind of flies in the face of the force of nature to procreate and survive...

    Possibly the universe [or more likely the local 'Alpha Quadrant'] has a more cosmic deliverance that may regulate population, as was the case 60.0Ma at the juncture of the K-Pg [formerly K-T] boundary that marked the end of the Cretaceous Period and was coincidentally punctuated by the last Mass Extinction Event [MEE], possibly caused by the asteroid impact at Chicxulub in the Gulf of Mexico. Other causal factors being the Deccan Trap event [basaltic outflow on the Indian sub-continent], believed to have been active from 68-60.0Ma. Certainly if the planet's atmosphere was already stressed by the latter event, the Chicxulub event would have finished the job...

    The previous MEE - which again fell at a juncture, of the Permian–Triassic boundary, about 251-250Ma and is believed may have been caused by previous multiple stellar impacts and the earlier basaltic outflow creating the Siberian Traps. It is believed that 90% of life on earth was made extinct from this event. It would have taken around 30M years for life to recover.

    But that is just a pebble chip on the windscreen, compared to other far scarier threats from possible gamma-ray bursts from nearby super-novae... That really would put the kibosh on all life on earth - period. [bacteria might get through... then for life on earth it would be a reboot!].

    So again, both Tectonic/geophysical and astrophysical processes have played their parts in regulating planetary population and no-doubt, given the inexorably slow but immensely powerful forces at play, will continue to do so.

    Having said all that, I am an optimist at heart [...a somewhat cynical optimist - granted, which some might regard as a contradiction in terms:rolleyes:], which means that I am of the mind that I would like to see humankind reach the stars and enter the 'Roddenberry Model' era. But in order to attain the final variable in Drakes Equation - we have to survive... ourselves.

    And that means changing our course and clothes... And handing out the prophylactics...
     
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    The same people who want to reduce human population are usually the ones who preach anti-war; at least as far as one side is concerned. They would have tyrants reduce the population through oppressive socialistic means, such as death panels for people needing medical care.
     
  3. ImaginaryNumber
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    Ya gotta luv those inflammatory posts. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Mr Efficiency
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    They think so poorly of humanity, but seemingly exempt themselves from this judgement ? How else to explain their not having jumped off a bridge yet ? That is just misanthropy.
     
  5. powerabout
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    every healthcare system makes judgements on expenses hence life and death
    moneys finite, humans on the other hand..you can make them as fast as you like
    and the planet is a finite size
    pretty obvious what also needs to be made finite or we will assure mutual destruction with many small weapons of mass destruction
     
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    I am not so sure that there is anything like a direct correlation between money and longevity, were it otherwise there would be plenty of billionaire centenarians, there isn't and they seem to fall off the perch at around the same time as people of much more modest means. The provision of basic health support, e.g. anti-biotics, is another story, if it is not present, and there are other complications of poverty such as poor diet, , people die earlier. But I would expect a graph of life expectancy Vs income would level out at a relatively modest income.
     
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    ACCUWEATHR | Timelapse Could Help Scientists in Climate Change Research
     
  8. hoytedow
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    Yes you do.
     
  9. ImaginaryNumber
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    The sage has spoken...

    SUN-SENTINAL (Florida) | Sea level rise in South Florida: expect floods, sea wall woes
     
  10. ImaginaryNumber
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    NEW YORK TIMES | Obama Readying Emissions Limits on Power Plants
     
  11. hoytedow
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    Warmnologist alarmism.
     
  12. micah719
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    A double barreled excerpt....Joe "Scattergun" Biden would love the sentiment.

    Article 1: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/21/nzclimate-truth-newsletter-no-313/#more-88551

    Article 2: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/...-events-averted-by-global-warming/#more-88531
     
  13. ImaginaryNumber
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    It's an important question, and one that you've raised earlier in this thread. Many scientists have studied the question of temperature records, both proponents and skeptics of AGW. I'll copy a chart from the extensive answer I gave to you earlier:

    Does Urban Heat Island effect exaggerate global warming trends?

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    Troy made this post on another Global Warming thread. Prominent AGW-skeptic Richard Muller was funded by a consortium of donors, including the infamous Koch brothers, to research the temperature records. What he found convinced him the books were not cooked, temperatures were rising, and AGW was indeed happening.
     
  14. ImaginaryNumber
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    You’re going to have to try harder if you don’t want your Royal PITA credential’s revoked. :)

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    RED ORBIT | Cold Snap 116 Million Years Ago Triggered Global Cooling
     
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