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Discussion in 'Wooden Boat Building and Restoration' started by NWBoater, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Grady300
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    Grady300 Junior Member

    Glad it making sense, I don't know why a lot of plans are like that. Seams to me if they would just spend a little more time on giving better info it would make it easier forever.
    Have you ever heard of the saltwater sportsman show in is in Salem this year I may have my Tolman there havent decided yet
     
  2. NWBoater
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    Yes- that is exactly my thinking! The engineers could "dumb" down these plans for the beginner simply replacing the goblygook scriblings with true and accurate dimensions would really allow the home boat builder to do better work, may even boost sales of plans I would think more people would dive right in.

    Yes I plan to attend the saltwater sportsman show this year, I will look for you and come say hello. Maybe I will have some progress pictures to share by then.
     
  3. Grady300
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    Sweet hope to see you there. I just need to confirm what they charge to exhibit. they told me $300 which is fine but that might be per 10x10 space if i need 3 spaces I won't be able to do it but will attend
     
  4. NWBoater
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    Update

    Time for a update on the progress of my first build or more accurately my mistakes!

    So far I have managed to cut my forms wrong but I did not realize this until after I had cut all of the notches:mad: I got to experience this all over again. Next I did a marvelous job cutting out and framing the transom...but during my self admiration I managed to glue the framing on the wrong side of the transom bevel:mad: so I got to try that all over again.

    Chine logs are a new personal hell of mine. Particularly the part where they must neatly fit to the keel and stem. I thought luck was on my side when I made a chine log perfectly on the first try. Boy was I wrong, the real fun was just beginning. Putting a chine in place by yourself is a very bad idea if you value your reproductive parts. With the chine log fit nicely in place from the transom forward to form number two things were looking good. Getting that thing to bend tight to form three is not bad. Getting the chine log the rest of the way to the keel and stem is where the rodeo happens. I liken this to a rodeo as it has some similarities. You force the thing to bend then you hold on for dear life with one hand while it slips and bucks and fights eventually jumping wildly out of place and slamming your goods hard enough to make you see glitter:mad: lesson learned here, never assume that a chine log is harmless.

    Through all of this I have had a great time and I am enjoying myself very much. To date I have both chine logs in permanently and I have the bottom battens nearly complete, just need to finish the ends and top nice and pretty. I could possibly be installing the sides and bottom this weekend.

    What is the order for assembly with sides and bottom? Sides first bottom last?
     
  5. NWBoater
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    picture heavy progress report

    Here are some pictures to show the work I have been describing. If you are new to this and are on the fence about trying it I cannot tell you how much fun it is! I think I am hooked for life. I have already been thinking and planning my next build, possibly a Sherwood Queen.

    I hope you enjoy the pictures.
     

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  6. NWBoater
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    more pictures

    here are a few more pictures to show where I left off last night.
     

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  7. michael pierzga
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    If she will have an epoxy finish you should start now. Very difficult to work inside a boat once you flip her over,

    Now its easy. Prefinishing with two or three coats of epoxy now with save lots of time and avoid,,,BACK PROBLEMS and the dreaded....epoxy foot.
     
  8. NWBoater
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    I am having trouble deciding if I will epoxy the inside or not. I am leaning towards epoxy/glass exterior and lots of coats of epoxy paint inside. I'm not sure what prices other builders are finding on epoxy and hardener but around here West Systems is $98/gallon I forget how much the hardener is I think it was about half the cost of the epoxy.
     
  9. Submarine Tom

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    I wouldn't epoxy the inside.

    A shinny white that can breath is preferred.

    It's what I did on my 3/4" glass/ply and it's been fine for 15 years now.
     
  10. michael pierzga
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    The epoxy hardens the wood surface and makes it more rugged . The epoxy also creates a good surface primer for paint. Its well worth doing . Not much diffence in price between a can of top quality paint and epoxy. Two coats epoxy, then paint is the generally used system.

    Also remember to radius..quarter round... all edges. Paint doesnt like sharp edges
     
  11. NWBoater
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    Thank you for the info. Out of curiosity could I use the cheaper polyester resin for this purpose?
     
  12. michael pierzga
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    I Dont know. Ive never tried/. If epoxy cant be used I would go with quality primer
     
  13. FMS
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    Epoxy has much better adhesion to wood than polyester resin.
     
  14. NWBoater
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    You have some sound reasons for using epoxy. I simply had not budgeted much for epoxy on this build. I was trying to keep the build cheap for my first. I have no problem spending more money, it's the wife unit that I have to be mindful of. She thought this was a bad idea from the start BUT now she is becoming a believer.
     

  15. michael pierzga
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    Tell your wife that Everyone needs a good skiff. Its a fundamental human right. Protected by the Constitution. Recommended by doctors.

    Then purchase a jug of epoxy......................
     
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