ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

The average car accumulates 12,000 miles per year...two car family and that's almost 25,000 miles per year.

Something is wrong...........................

 

Depends on where you're pedaling that bicycle, I suppose. Right now my motor home is parked in a town that's maybe ten square miles in area. There's nothing farther than a ten or fifteen minute bicycle ride away. That includes two supermarkets, a Kmart, a hardware/lumber store, three drug stores, a surplus store, a nursery and garden supply, a hospital and several doctor's offices, corner markets, convenience stores, liquor stores, restaurants, car dealers, schools, a library, fast food joints, etc.

That's because it's the commercial hub of a large agricultural valley along the river. A river which also draws a lot of out-of-town people, by the way.... not to mention the mobile home communities along its banks, which cater to weekenders and retirees. And of course the desert surrounding the valley attracts its share of people too....

So if you want to be one of the 7,000 folks who live in town, your bicycle may work just fine, unless you want to go visit friends a hundred miles away, who live in the next town down the freeway. If you want to be one of the 15,000 full-time residents in the extended area the town serves, or one of the thousands of visitors or part-time residents, you're either going to buy a vehicle or be screwed...

I see no point in trying to paint all those people living outside of town as environmental criminals because they own a car or pickup, instead of moving into an apartment in town. Not to mention the people in town who also own one, because they need to get to work somewhere in the boondocks, or just like to get out of town now and then, or want pull their bass boat down to the launching ramp on weekends....

And I'm not sure that people who make a living connected to the world of pleasure boating are the best candidates to be lecturing the rest of us on conservation of energy and the use of fossil fuels....

 

What's wrong is your arithmetic. When you double the number of vehicles someone owns, you don't normally double the number of miles they drive. I have a pickup and a Jeep, but I only drive one at a time..... at home, my wife and my older son each have a minivan. But they only drive one of them when they go grocery shopping.

 

Its counterproductive to call anyone an environmental criminal. Its also unprodutive to close your eyes to the problem.
This problem, the over reliance on the automobile, will have to be solved or the next generation will be spending their whole paycheck of expensive transport solutions in order to survive. There is no othe way.

12,000 miles per vehicle ???

 

Sorry...I simply looked at the car buyers guide for used cars and it stated 12,000 miles average. Multiply this times the number of vehicles seems logical.

 

Whether reliance on an automobile is "over reliance" or not depends on where you live, where you work, and how you spend your leisure time. Most of the people proposing limits on personal vehicle usage, or punitive measures based on miles driven, seem to be city dwellers who haven't a clue what it's like to live anywhere outside of densely-populated urban areas.

I've put over two hundred thousand miles on my pickup in the last twelve years, and I guarantee it isn't because I'm too lazy to ride a bicycle instead of driving.

 

So..what is the solution ?

A solution must be found. The current system is broken.

Fixing broken systems takes a very long time. Better get a move on now.

And no fair punishing me on my bicycle by raising my taxes to solve problems for people who choose an energy intensive lifestyle.

Windmills ! I pay for those buggers with tax, yet I use a miniscule amount of energy each year.

 

Yes Frosty, that is exactly what I have. Big pool and a Honda fire pump and hoses with quick connect fittings already made up, you learn to look after yourself living on a boat eh. Did it for 17 years, so have a rough idea of the game.

 

Do Australian houses have fire celars or underground fire shelters ?

 

this is exactly what hoyt can't grasp rw. there has never been such large climate change over such a short period that we know of excluding catastrophic events like asteroid impacts.

 

people are having them installed since black saturday. around here you just dive into a wombat hole and your safe.

 

Rarely.

There has yet to be an approved fire refuge, because of the difficulties of protecting against heat while still supplying oxygen.

A few years ago, they found the bodies of two men sheltering in a concrete water tank, half full. They were cool enough, but they asphyxiated from the fumes.

Last week, a few people went under a jetty to escape the fire, reported that there was only a few inches of breathable air on the surface of the water.

 

I think that governments need to provide tax breaks for people working at home, who also own a home gym. The big 'National Broadband' scheme in Australia is a great idea for that reason.

They should also reward people who have their supermarket shopping delivered to them.

Reduction in vehicle miles would help the countries economy ( oil imports ), save on road infrastructure costs, and a whole lot of other benefits while reducing co2 production.

 

what do you think these are. google wildfire bunkers. fully approved up to 12 people.

 

if you lay as low as possible or get into a hole you can survive. the water tank would have been above ground which is why they choked.