ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. Landlubber
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    "Can you believe - they didnt even have insurance !!!! how stupid is that ?".....I cannot believe you mate, many people do NOT have insurance anymore as it costs so much. My place went from $1200 to over $5000, so I do not have insurance anymore either..........guess I must be stupid too eh...or maybe I simply cannot afford it either.
     
  2. Number4

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    I had the misfortune of living in Christchurch, NZ during the earthquake(s) of 2010/11. The insurance companies were refusing all new policies, until the quakes stopped. Nobody could build, rent, buy or sell. They held the town to ransom. Quite rightly in my opinion. They are up to 10,996 quakes since September 2010. The town is screwed, still largely in ruin.
    I used to work in WA. I experienced a few bush fires. My friend pulled some string on a bale of hay. It started smouldering, then burst into flames. An hour later the fire had created a hurricane force wind and the round bales were flaming torches bouncing down the paddock then exploding into fireballs. A willy willy (mini tornado) formed, it was pure fire. When it hit a gum tree it went up with a mushroom cloud reaching 1000 feet! Ka Boom!
    Spectacular.
     
  3. rwatson
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    You must be living in a high risk location. The floods ?

    If I couldn't insure a major investment, I would sell it, be it a house, boat or whatever. The exception is if you have enough money so that its loss wouldnt be a disaster for you personally.

    Every investment strategy in the world says don't place all your investments in one risk.
     
  4. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    The desertification you mention happened long before industrialization. May be the climate change will make it green again. That would not be a bad thing, would it?
     
  5. hoytedow
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    I agree totally with your statement.
    As to so-called overpopulation some super germ will take care of that. We don't need the help of some narcissistic socialist to cull our herd. Any person who wants to proclaim himself the judge of who lives and who dies should be the first one eliminated.
     
  6. powerabout
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    most of the Sahara was green as evidenced by the dinosaur bones
     
  7. troy2000
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    At least parts of it were green a lot later than that. Like four or five thousand years ago....

     
  8. powerabout
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    Interesting
    thanks Troy
     
  9. Frosty

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    Thats a big increase. You could nearly build a swimming pool for that and build a catchment area around the house with big pumps that pumped water from the pool over the house and return to the pool.

    If the house can be doused with water like 0000 per minute its unlikely to set on fire.
     
  10. michael pierzga
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    Its more effective to change the way you live. Particularly in the US were people are forced to jump into their car and drive 5 miles...JUST TO PURCHASE A CAN OF BEANS.

    Americans praise Walmart and all the big shopping malls because they reduce the price of mass consumption via economies of scale.

    In the end the environment pays a heavy price when you permit the local grocer to go bankrupt by encouraging big box business to relocate and sell stuff cheap.
     
  11. powerabout
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    Very good point, I wonder if the vehicle emissions have been measured with both systems, could do it these days with all the baseline data that exists.
     
  12. troy2000
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    If an American has to drive five miles to buy a can of beans, it's because he lives that far outside of town -- not because Walmart has driven all the canned-bean vendors out of business. I assure you, there are still plenty of convenience stores, neighborhood grocery stores, and supermarkets.

    If you think we should all all cram ourselves into towns and cities cheek-by-jowl to save gasoline when we go grocery shopping, forget it. Ain't gonna happen...;)

    I'm reminded of a retired Air Force colonel I once knew, whose wife was from England. Her elderly brother decided to visit them one year, and it was going to be his first trip to the US. He was livid when he found out how much more it costs to fly from London to California, instead of to the east coast.

    "I won't pay it," he declared. "I'll simply fly to New York, rent a car, and drive over to Palm Springs." They had a hard time talking him out of it; he simply couldn't grasp that it would be a 3,000 mile drive (about 4,800 kilometers).
     
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    of course it happened long before industrialization, and began shortly after the ice age.

    The main points are :

    1) It wont ever go back until we have another major climate shift - like an ice age
    2) It has accelerated immensely over the last 150 years during industrialisation and very large population increases.
    3) It is a very grim indication of the future under an increasing temperature.
     
  14. michael pierzga
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    Thats not my experience with the US. I ride a bicycle, so Im sensitive to the way things are. In the US I would starve to death if I relied on my Bike to go grocery shopping.
    Big chains decimated neighborhood markets. You now have the Camera Warehouse, Hardware Store Warehouse, Food Warehouse, Office supply Warehouse, Cordless Drill Warehouse,Toy Warehouse, Lightbulb Warehouse, Shoe Warehouse... ,.... and Troys Greengrocer now only exists in the movies.
    When I live in areas which cater to people, not car salesmen, parking lot owners , Wall steet big box stores... it means a 10min bike ride for a bag of groceries and a few paint brushes .... Im happy and Im not killing the environment burning energy.

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    I still see down in the Mexican parts of Houston the vegetable trucks driving around selling direct.
    There was a cost for industrialisation, more cash meant bigger homes, meant further out of town, meant bigger cars, meant more fuel consumption, meant less farming land, meant farms had to produce more from same land and same water or less as the case usually is these days, that meant more chemicals and faster growing food as so on.
    It also means we live shorter lives ( with disease related deaths removed )
    Those Greek, Italians and Swiss (that live in the alps) seem to live forever.
    ( all the people that walk to the grocery shop or is that just a coincidence?)
     

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