Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

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    prograd, If you tried to move the forward beam, it would be very complicated- the bulkhead under it carries the mast and dagger board trunk loads.
    The floats can be carried under the cabin extensions so the total beam is around 8'. My estimates on a F-type system would be just under 8'6".
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  2. prograd
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    prograd Junior Member

    Thank you for information, it seems that stock Buccaneer is trailable in EU too, because it's not wider than 2.55m (about 8'5").

    I wonder how you did you design folding system, is cuddy not in the way when folding forward beam?
     
  3. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    Just an OT aside. I only have one plans package left.
    When it has gone there will be no more. :eek:
     
  4. prograd
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    prograd Junior Member

    Then make some more! :)

    More plans you spread, more likely Buc's will be conquer the world.
     
  5. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    Thanks PG.
    Trouble is I have to have at least five orders to make the effort worth while, and there's not much chance of that now.
    Since I moved house to the mountains there is not a local print shop where I can get the required quality. This means a journey back to Sydney and all it entails. :(
     
  6. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Folding and width

    prograd, The 24 was designed back when the trailering limit was 8', so that is the maximum width of the fixed parts of many boats from that era, including the Buc. The floats and outer crossbeams separate and ride on extra fixed supports on the trailer. Very simple, but it requires "manhandling" the floats. My boat, without a cabin, came with a simple system of supporting the floats and rolling them next to the main hull. I have posted pics in the forum in the past. An "F" type folding system will require a re-design of the cabin and beam structure, one reason I haven't added one to my boat. I am hoping that OTB's system proves workable and adaptable, it would be a wonderful upgrade to the Buc. B
     
  7. outside the box

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    OS7
    That would be a shame for you to discontinue what you have built up in the Buc 24' community with your development and support and sale of plans.

    We have plotter/large format printer machines onsite here so would be more than happy to work with you to help provide what seems to be a need in the market for the continuation of the Buc 24' plans availability.

    Through the natural attrition of your personal and business Crowther contact/dealership surely the market would agree the right to sell the plans is yours, please consider the continuation of the sale of plans.
     
  8. oldsailor7
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    Thanks OTB.
    I'll see how things pan out. :cool:
     
  9. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    All good offer is unconditional on time etc, growing quite fond of this little Tri the more we work on it the more one appreciates it's simplicity and the focus Lock had to just get people on the water, but in a very good boat for the time and now 40 odd years later it still delivers, seems this is lost in the majority of modern day boats...
     
  10. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Glass stripping complete finally

    All glass gone and floats are considerably lighter, even found more marine stamps under the paint and glass on the ply so that is pleasing, now onto the float storm damage repairs to the ply sheathing to the bow of one float and the stern of the other pleased with progress. photo's up on FB
     
  11. Samnz
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    Capricorn is all 4mm ply except the main hull deck and cabintop/cockpit which is 6mm.
    the entire boat (all hulls and decks/cockpit/cabin etc) had an external layer of dynel, which im guessing was Epoxy (did they have epoxy in 1969? then red lead I think. Deck was then thick cork non skid. Interior was just sealed with epoxy or something like it.

    Very sound boat overall.
     
  12. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Thank you very much for that Sam
    This one was taped at seams then painted then through the years it has had really rough dynel/boatcloth added over paint and anti foul some parts were 5 to 6mm thick some peeled some did not but the great news is all ply is like new no rot so onwards and upwards now the job just got easier.
    Thanks again for the time taken to reply understand you are busy up there.
    By the way the new boat looks great congratulations to you both and given the time frame you made all the right choices re our correspondence.
     
  13. Gary Baigent
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    Yes, epoxy would have been well established then; Jim Young talks about the first Vindex being built in epoxy/ply in 1961-62; although he didn't believe in fibreglass sheathing, just epoxy coated. Original Vindex is still around.
     
  14. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Thanks for that Gary and
    Sid which could stand for (So It's Done) looks great congratulations.
     

  15. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Sail quote just in any comment as have not delt with them before

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    1 pc Tri Radial Cut Hank-on Jib #2 of 5.2oz USwt cruising laminates (PC-50), 23’9” luff x 11’2” foot x 23’ leech for US$764

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    Less:10% offseason discount for US$244

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