ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

You mentioned "death by a thousand cuts". That's a good way of looking at it, but I do feel most humans will adapt just fine.

There are a lot of survival type web sites spawning all over the place. If you examine what they're doing it's all just common sense, sustainable living. They're a throw-back to the old ways of living. In North America, for example, tribes survived well on the land along for a good 12,000 years...perhaps longer. Pioneers came along and survived just fine too.

I'm with Michael. We'll still be sailing on the weekends.

 

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Stands between now and any future where food production goes back to the 'good old days'.

 

I'll just mention a few things that made that possible - Buffalo, Carrier Pigeons, Salmon, even trees with the big dieback happening.

Things have changed a lot in the last 300 years.

 

Of course, it was warmer than it is now back when Leif Ericson settled Greenland.

No doubt it was all the SUVs...

Wolf Hound

 

One of the dustiest and well traveled back roads of the debate.....

The typical retort is 'prove it!'

Welcome to the forum BTW

 

Greenland may have been warmer at the time, but there's no proof the entire world was. The Medieval Warm Period is looking more and more like a local North Atlantic phenomenon -- balanced out by unusually cool temperatures in central Eurasia, northwestern North America, and possibly parts of the South Atlantic. Overall it seems to have been a temporary redistribution of temperatures, rather than an overall rise.
http://www.bitsofscience.org/medieval-warm-period-medieval-period-6282/

And even in the North Atlantic area where the temperatures were higher than usual, they were still lower than today's temperatures....

 

Humans dont live long in the cold. Humans are warm blooded --well most are.

Life expectancy in England 300 years ago was about 30. Every one in the west now live better than any King did 300 years ago -

If you want to live a long time you have to keep warm and eat soup.

 

Even stranger, is that the graph over Greenland shows cooling.

http://calderup.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/warming-of-greenland/

But as the others have pointed out, the world trend is not cooling. Air temperates have always been hard to quantify, but the ocean temperatures are pretty obvious. The last 100 years have seen fish migrating south to cooler water where I live, and getting smaller in numbers in their usual habitats.

 

Satellite data shows no rise in global temperatures for ~15 years now. This is pretty much non-controversial nowadays. Argument goes that it takes ~30 years for such a trend to be more than transient so I'm not arguing either way WRT AGW.

WRT fish, unless you can quote species not subject to human harvesting, I'll say it's the hunting pressure over environmental change any day. If we're talking estuarine species, habitat destruction would be my first suspicion.

PDW

 

OK- I'll add that to the list.

I had thought the key to long life was the four B's:

Frequent Beer, beans, baths and broads...

 

Australia supported about how many abo's maybe a million?
they were certainly self supporting and green hence they lasted longer than any other race on the planet - till Capt Cook invaded

 

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so IF we have global warming how come the Fox glacier in NZ got longer for a couple of years then went back again

 

Kids these days...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM0hczFNDZI

 

That's like asking, "so if there's global warming, how come we had a cold snap in my home town last week and then it warmed up again?"