Long term survival boat ideas

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by mmutch, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Shes only 26 --tiny little thing and sings when shes working. I could not believe she could do it when I first saw her. Man does she know her stuff. She teaches in Singapore too. I love going to the dentist ,--and she has equipment I never saw in UK.

    She gave me a root canal file last time. I use it for cleaning carb jets.

    100 dollars worth apparantly---when new.

    Not cheap though !!! actually you could be right she may have a super yacht --wont be long.
     
  2. mmutch
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    Although I agree with a lot of you I see is has gone a bit off topic lol I agree people depend on the gov to much to save them and the ones that do try to be prepared get mocked also I agree about mechanical propulsion that's why I would have started with a lagoon 620 as its a sail boat with engines for maneuvering in a harbour and the rest of what I would need like reefer or freezer I would have running of battery's being recharge by solar and/or wind plus you would be far away from the people who are getting desperate that would kill you for some food water and you could have an alarm on the radar so anything approaching would give you enough time to get underway in case there intentions are not to make friends
     
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    You will also need storage for a lot of spare parts depending on the amount of systems and length of the dark ages. A Wharram actually is a very good choice as it is simple and has rigs that can be easily converted to tarp sails or even woven palm fronds. Sweeps, poles and a light kedge anchor can handle harbors. I'd only count on your electrics for a few years so practice drinking warm beer.....
     
  4. masalai
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    Regardless of what has been suggested, I still feel that my boat, "CNO" at 11.99m and 6.55m beam OA, able to carry around a tonne (1000 kg) of fuel for a range of about 2000 miles at about 7 knots is the best option that I have seen.

    "CNO" is ideal for the tropics, as it will take a mast and sails and can be easily single handed by day-sailing (anchoring up over night), draws a tad less than 3 ft and can be sat on her bottom remaining upright... with berthing for 4 people. 8 solar panels (more than 1400W), ready to take 5 more to deliver 2275W to charge the batteries, inverters electric galley supported by a couple of single burner gas elements, an electric maceration toilet & holding tank, shower with pressure water and all the electronic goodies - ready to go....
     
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    Thats the sort of prize the pirates will want alright....a floating gas station and deli with real indoor plumbing! Seriously each to there own, if everybody thinks about the things they don't want to survive without maybe humanity won't lose civilization. Mankind- saved by the toaster....
     
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    masalai masalai

    I do not brag about anti-piracy measures - best kept to myself, but this may be useful as per international law... read the file attached and print...

    Posted on the inside of a window on my boat - - is an excellent deterrent in Australian waters, especially after describing what "keel-hauling" is and that there are many eyes watching and waiting to help in deterring what was previously assumed to be "mere petty theft" is in fact a bloody serious criminal offence... Execution of a standard "keel-hauling" of a pirate caught in the act would possibly be "condoned"??? having given the federal police 20 minutes to come and restrain said pirate as it may be necessary to keel-haul the pirate to subdue the perpetrator of this heinous crime...
     

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  7. Frosty

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    I do'nt think mass has a 'shell' sign on the boat do you Mas
     
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    Tis true that prevention is better than cure. Being able to lower your mast to hide in a cove could be important. Having pirates say Mass is a good thing me thinks. The only problem with keel hauling is it takes barnacles on the bottom which multihulls can't afford. Networking with your local world to help pull things back together by providing water transport might be the best way to bring back the microwaves.
     
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    masalai masalai

    Who needs barnacles when a "polished & sharpened propeller" makes a fantastic cutting instrument
     
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    For a close shave? ;)
     
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    masalai masalai

    The idea is "not to miss", a thorough 'slice and dice' operation - ready for an appetising meal for the sharks - - with a length of rope attached for flossing.....
     
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    Just as a mental teaser, I like the "survival" concept in science fiction. If the "end" came in a way that there were just a few survivors, the baddies would cetainly stream out of the cities and where I live would be a target. Haven't quite got aound to anti-tank rockets and anti-personnel mines though. Too busy playing farmer and building boats. Does anyone else remember "Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournell - one of the best books of its type - highly recommended- or "Mad Max"?.

    A biggish trimaran would be a better choice than any land-based retreat - but it certainly would need to be fast under sail, very strongly built from low-tech materials that could be repaired with whatever came to hand. Doug Lord would probably recommend foils. If we are going to fantasize, why not a hydrogen-engine with a jet drive for emergency speed without needing to worry about fuel? The vessel would need a hydroponic growing area for high-vitamin foods. efficient desalinators, manual gear throughout with mimimal electrical or electronic gsimos despite having lots of solar and wind chargers and a heap of battery reserve for HT radio (2 minimum).

    Frosty thinks "Waterworld" was crap and he probably does not approve of science fiction generally but the biggest problem with Waterworld was Dennis Hopper - what a poor choice for the baddie! Great boat though - I believe there were actually two built by the Frogs at vast expense and both were scrapped after the movie was finished.

    Cheers from the (fairly remote) Aussie bush

    Alan
     
  13. Frosty

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    It was kevin Costner that got up my nose, I dont know why, I think he is a *** *****

    His other attempt at acting was Robin Hood,-- the prat cant even speak with an English accent. Minimum requirement for an actor would'nt you say old chap?
     
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    Lucifer's Hammer is a good book, fairly realistic about the challenges after a comet strike. Malevil is a French book that follows the same sort of challenges after a nuclear war........ Who watched Waterworld for the acting? In the end the Costner character sensibly builds a Wharram "Pahi" style cat but the real question is why he would leave an Island with a beautiful woman? Talk about being alone to long....A big challenge for sailboats with modern rigs is when the standing rigging wears out....The work rigs of yesterday provide the answer, I think the Nicol would look good with a Wharram gaff main. Of course it would need a yard arm to hoist for the down wind square sail, and following tradition, to hang the pirates from. Trial conducted by the captain of course. I'm going to run the international piracy law by local judiciaries to see when International law can supersede local rulings, think of the tax dollars saved!
     

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    I've never tried one, but think a Chinese junk rig might be good. As for saving tax dollars, why not convert a few politicians to bio-fuel? Not just savings, but a better planet all round.
     
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