Buccaneer 24 Trimaran

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Samnz, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. cavalier mk2
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    You guys mast these things for the summer..... Is that the stock rudder? I don't really like the long ellipse curve used like that. It would be easier to get a good section building if the front was straight, angled sightly aft. With a curve like that it is harder to make the constantly changing foil section as it curves aft. For a cheap fix I'd try Paddy's fences but I think you need a different rudder. We have what amounts to a motor boat style rectangular rudder but the section is good and we have had no control issues at speeds in the mid to high teens.
     
  2. SpiritWolf15x
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    It is the rudder that came with the boat when my father and I rescued it from the former owner after it he had left derelict for about 11 years after breaking the stock 40' mast in a race.

    As soon as I have the financial means, it is getting an aft mounted Farrier 33R style rudder, I've a mold for one that my father made off of a friend's new high end rudder blade. This will come with some choice cockpit modifications and new sails to fit the current rig.
     
  3. cavalier mk2
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    Sounds like an excellent approach. If you want to try something sooner take a page from Bruce and measure the rudderstock, I think there are boat breakers in Bellingham, even a stock monohull rudder might work better. I've got a stern redo I want to try but it will have to wait some time as I'd need to haul somewhere. Right now I have a work off the beach budget which keeps me from sawing too many things off.
     
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    33 rudder

    Spirit, that is a nice looking 33, but it is really hard to get a rudder like that to work on a transom. My cobbled rudder could be much better, but it does have a straight leading edge and is stable and rock solid past 15kts. B
     
  6. SpiritWolf15x
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    I'm not going to use the rudder in the pic, that thing is garbage. The rudder I have planned are of the same design as these. Proven to give full control past 22knots.

    Also, since I'm nice, once I make a rudder or two I'll have the mold up for use to local to me sailors... For a fair rental fee that is. =P
     

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  7. oldsailor7
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    I still have a set of Bucc plans available. PM me if interested. :D
     
  8. Corley
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    Corley epoxy coated

    Has anyone had an opportunity to look at this bucc 24? I've wondered about it at times with the gear it has it would almost be worth buying even if the hulls are shot it's been on the market a long time gradually dropping in price.
     
  9. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Good rudders

    Those look like the right idea. Are you planing on making yours "kick up" like those in the pic or going with a vertical dagger style- I know there are advantages to each. B
     
  10. SpiritWolf15x
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    Originally I was thinking a dagger board type, like the farriers use, that pulls out when not needed, but kick up seems much simpler to design.
     
  11. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Strong

    Either way, make it strong, I have broken a couple of rudders and it really ruins your day. I don't even want to think about it in a fast moving multi. B
     
  12. ikimalu
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    Last saturday we visited the warf where the B24 finally was hoisted.

    Full of mud, very wet, some fish still inside, but it seemed solid. Some rotten spots, but not in the main hull. Just a few in the cabin aft and side and off course the damaged starboard ama.

    We bought it anyway. It will take some time to restore.......
     

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  13. HASYB
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    Ha Sipke,

    Very good to hear you are going to restore, and that there are only some rotten spots.
    When are you going to collect the boat?
     
  14. ikimalu
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    ikimalu Junior Member

    Hielan,

    I have to arrange a trailer, and a spot nearby to restore. First there is still mud inside. I have to flush the boat to get it all out. Then sand it completely to let the boat dry out. So still a bit of planning to do.

    Sipke
     

  15. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    A nice winter's project

    It really doesn't look that bad, and just being in the water will not have done much damage- and you got it out without more damage. The sooner it is washed and drying out, the better as freezing can do more damage than any thing else at this point. Get it under cover as soon as possible, even a good tarp with some ventilation will do a lot of good. It also comes apart in a few hours, and then is much easier to transport and store. I use a small utility trailer to haul my floats when I want to work on them at home.
    Good luck, I am happy to see that you are trying to rescue it. B
     
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