Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

This is a very interesting paper on the design of boards and rudders by Bernard Kohler.
He covers sections, plan forms, aspect ratio and skin friction matters in a very understandable way.
http://www.ikarus342000.com/Boardsandrudders.pdf

 

Thanks

Thanks for posting that, i had not seen it. B

 

Thanks Elkclan. I said you would be the first to know.
Due to continued demand for these plans I will be producing five sets later this week. Please contact me by private mail with details.

Others please note I now have three confirmed orders, so two will be available.
Nothing has changed except the price is now US$155.00 due to international currency rate changes.

 

Hello all,

I saw this modification on youtube, cutthroatjake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JlgG6dMF6w

is that a recommended mod? Or will it cause extensive wave slamming or other negative aspects....

Kind regards,

Sipke

 

No. It's not a recommended mod, but that said it will give you more room in the main hull and won't be a problem in smooth waters.
In rough waters I don't even think it will slow the boat down----but it will be very noisy in that drum like cabin.

 

hull bumps

I have seen pictures of several other Bucs with hull/cabin "bumps", so it is not the only one. I am sure adding real sitting head room is very nice in the cabin, as long as it doesn't adversely effect the sailing performance, and might be better than building a taller cabin top. I do know that the 24 already rides low, and those bump-outs are going to be in the waves in most conditions. They may not hurt much- many newer designs are doing something similar. For sure, they must not be allowed to add very much weight as the 24 can't carry any extra. Air space inside won't hurt, but you can't fill it with an extensive interior and expect the boat to sail very well. Bucs are light and HAVE to be kept that way. My boat's max useful load is about 600 lbs crew and gear, and likes a lot less. B

 

Buccaneer 24 Plans

I am interested in the Buccaneer 24. Five posts / five questions:

Does anyone know of any B24's in the PNW of USA?

 

I am interested in the Buccaneer 24. Five posts / five questions:

What is the approximate finished weight?

 

Buccaneer 24 Plans

I am interested in the Buccaneer 24. Five posts / five questions:

I see lots of modifications. Is there a list summarizing the "best changes"?

 

Buccaneer 24 Plans

I am interested in the Buccaneer 24. Five posts / five questions:

Is the B24 much faster than the Tremolino?

 

Buccaneer 24 Plans

I am interested in the Buccaneer 24. Five posts / five questions:

Is there a better plan out there for cruising at this length?

 

What kind of cruising do you like? Some people like to put a deck tent on a Tremelino and get there fast, others want more room, a drier ride and don't mind a less frenetic pace. Do you need to disassemble/fold? Contrast the Bucc with the Horstmans in that size and look up the Searunner 25. I'm thinking a Tremelino has a higher top speed but Hughes would say he has one that is faster than both. Check out the website for smalltrimarans for other ideas. The Bucc does have something special to it though..

 

Cruising Needs

I haven't owned a sailboat for many years. Right now, my ideal is probably the Trinado built in Port Townsend.

http://www.biekerboats.com/Bieker_Boats/Trinado.html

But plans aren't available. I am looking at options. I have time to build right now, but not sail. Thanks for your reply.

 

One of the members of the board built a trinado based trimaran (aussiebushman). The tornado hulls used as floats in the original design proved to have inadequate buoyancy so the new floats were built (designed by Nigel Irens).

I dont want to be negative but my question is why build it then? You are still going to have to build a complete trimaran and there is no real labour saving, better to build something that is a bit more liveable with less compromises. If your concerned about building crossbeams the Bucc24 or one of Kurt Hughes aluminium tube and waterstay trimarans would be a better proposition.

This is all imho of course and you may just love the looks or performance of the trinado and the design elements it brings to the table. I'm not bagging it out by the way, for the narrow niche the design occupies it is quite elegant solution but I just cant see the benefits for most people.

Is the B24 much faster than the Tremolino?

I would think that the B24 would run away and hide from a Tremelino it has more waterline a better hullshape, float design etc. Anyone done any direct comparisons?

Is there a better plan out there for cruising at this length?

Nothing against the Bucc24 but I'd consider having a look at the Wavelength 780 for cruising by Bob Forster it's a very neatly designed unit and is foldable for trailering it's a viable homebuild and is constructed from vertical strip planked ply and timber stringers. An offset centreboard allows good useable interior space.

http://wavelengthmultihulls.com/

 

I'm not so sure about the speed Corely, it depends on the amas. With New Moon amas a Tremelino goes well past 20 knots. The Bucc submerges its amas before then.