Classic big ketch give away

Where is it located anyway? Are both the boat and owner in China?

 

Watchkeeper, if you don't like the company, why don't you take down the post. You can put up a flier on the corkboard of your private club with the assurance folks will suck up to you there.

Does the donation come with a ten year maintenance stippend if it is used as intended? Or does the owner want to have someone else maintain it while he still gets to use it for a few weeks a year?

I believe there are better ways to score a writeoff. Try posting on a business strategist's forum.

Sell the darn thing and send the cash to the charity. Let them figure out what to do with the money. They can always buy the boat from the new owners. But somehow, I doubt that will happen.

 

Yes, what is the desired compensation? Here it would be a tax writeoff. Not sure how it works in China, if the boat is in China.

 

The yacht has been docked since 2009 in Turkey. It's privately owned by a retiree and involves no write off, company tax advantage or anything else - it is what it is nothing more or less

I expect a more professional and positive response from members of Boat Design Forum, instead we get posts from a cantankerous old limelight grabbing self exiled Brit ridiculous and even more stupid comments and assertions from a redneck creatin in Hicksville US.

I would appreciate those that might wish to continue to denegrate my post to consider that there are some generous souls out there as is this owner that in his declining years would like to see others possibly less fortunate have the opportunity to get just as much pleasure from sailing as he did and he's not interested in money.

 

Why so cantankerous?

Calling someone a "redneck creatin" isn't consistent with any "profesional" I'd want to involve myself with.

And Phil's question was legit. Wouldn't most owners want something beneficial out of the deal? Great this owner has no interest in money, tax advantages, or anything else, but that's not the norm. How does asking a question denigrate your topic? At least it's known where in the world the boat is now!

 

My response to posted replies is completely in keeping with Phil's suggestion that the offer hides a hidden agenda, that my posted offer is self serving; i.e. 'corkboard of your private club with the assurance folks will suck up to you there'.

That comment plus the inference the offerer is looking to take advantage somehow; i.e. 'have someone else maintain it while he still gets to use it for a few weeks a year?' deserves the contempt it received and shame on Phil for the suggestions.

The owner is also entilted to some privacy hence my request that interested parties PM me, while other having positive advice to contribute do just that, detractors can find another cause to berate.

I expect better

 

Am I the only one who doesn't see that as a bad thing? What's wrong with both parties having a mutual benefit? You read it as a negative. I thought it was a legitimate query. Where would the best location be of a sailing school if the owner wants to see a sailing school appreciate the boat... maybe go along a few times a year.

Also if it was a tax writeoff donation and if the owner was a yard without too much work, all kinds of possibilities exist for material donations to improve it. That's not taking advantage of anyone.

 

Like the previous posts you are getting way ahead of youself asto what is on the table and I'm puzzled as to why you all insist on projecting or reading more into the offer than there is.

As to mutual benefits my colleague had tried selling the vessel for more than two years without success - obviously the market hasn't recovered so rather than have the yacht deteriorate while incurring yard fees he decided to gift it. If a recipient wanted to make some monetry donation thats their perogative but it's not a condition.

I guess the other issue is if it's a genuine question why it cannot be put fwd without the simaltaneous denegration of the good will or is that a standard US response to generousity.

 

Seems I need to be even more brutally honest with old Watchkeeper that lives in la la land and frolics barefoot in meadows picking flowers.


Interesting that country of location has now finaly been prized from him, yet the flag is also a mysterious secret. Is it not thought to be important --youve done this before you say? .

Once you sign over ownership and become responsible you may liable for all kinds of liens and debts incurred by the owner wether there is or none or that he has innocently forgotten..

I do not know the laws of Turkey but never ever think it may be the same as your own, Taxes, VAT and even being impounded by the customs or immigration is all possible.

The boat may have been involved in an accident or criminal activities it may owe thousands on un paid marina fees,-- there is no end to it. Turkey is not a place to be involved in police activity.

Registration and insurance may be required to leave port. Re registration may not be possible if it was American registered for example and your not American you will need to re register and without a survey this may/ will not be possible --It will then need to be hauled and repaired for survey and registration and weighed possibly to lloyds specification.

Many owners after incurring massive expenses see the only way out as to give it away. Of course they did not know it would cost so much!!!!

Now this may not be the case Watch keeper inists he good at this and has done this before . If he says its clean then I would believe him, ---- with paper work and sworn letters from his lawyers.


No picture !!!!!!!that I can see as yet. You don't go into things like this thinking Ohh I got a free boat, its ok Ills sign anything..

Which is what Whatchkeeper and his philanthropic friend is hoping. Is it just me or does anyone else find the anonymity of the owner unnecessarily suspicious.

Pleading ignorance of the last owner due to his wish of anonymity would hardly impress a Turkish court and not a position to be in.

Being given a boat is just as dodgy as buying it. Now all this may or may not be true but beware there is nothing wrong with being cautious.

Yes I may think bad --real bad ,---but I like to keep my trousers on and its not often I get them ripped off.

 

Why should he let Frosty run him out of his own thread? I don't think askiing people to maintain a modicum of manners, and avoid negativity for its own sake, is quite the same as demanding that people suck up to him.....

 

Please troy this is a serious discussion, have a modicum of manners and leave it unless you have some thing useful to say. Or were you talking to Watchkeeper the only ill mannered person here so far.

I understand if you have never bought a sea going registered or even foreign registered vessel this might seem totally exaggerated and be beyond you.

Believe me I have hardly scraped the surface of buying ( being given even more so) a foreign vessel in a foreign land by a foreigner, with foreign documentation in a foreign language ,---with foreign scruples.

Ive done it a few times.

Any way---- im sure Ive made my point here.

 

A request has been made by the OP to close the thread. Therefore the thread is being closed at this point.