Micro cruiser (sailboat).

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  1. Wavewacker
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    Did I miss any mention of a Sharpie? So many variations.....
     
  2. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    First line of post #1 . .

    ‘‘ A seaworthy cruising sailboat that is realistically trailerable ’’

    Which sharpie do you have in mind for that . . ? ?

    Cheers,
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  3. Wavewacker
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    Hmmm, thanks, I'll go for the simple one, Matt Layden's micro, Little Cruiser it's proven, I'd really like to add three feet and put a jacuzzi in the head! :D
     
  4. Squidly-Diddly
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    how about 'two trip' trailer-able with "in the water final assembly"

    Click my gallery for my modular cat.

    Designed to be just trailer-able with Ford F-350 or similar 'heavy duty' but still 'standard size' pick up....in single trip.


    Now consider a 60' x 10' monohull in two 30' x 10' sections.


    I said 10' even though I know thats a squeeze in most places.
     
  5. brehm62
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    When you say seaworthy are you talking about bluewater or more of a coastal cruiser? Are you talking about weekend live aboard space or a month of live aboard space? How much empty weight are you talking about?
     
  6. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    That boat covered with Matt the North American East coast, beyond the US East coast North & South borders, from Nova Scotia to the Bahamas. So I would say with a capable skipper she's a coastal cruiser. But I think a seaworthy cruiser is a step beyond that . . ;)

    You can have a jacuzzi in her as she is, you just have to fold it down, or blow it up in the middle of the cabin (which is also the head department ;)), the jacuzzi shape will adjust . . . :D

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    Cheers,
    Angel

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  7. brehm62
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    I can also comment about this. I used to tow a 30' travel trailer with a 1 ton 350 van. The trailer weighed 7,500 lbs but this was within my towing capacity. I didn't have any trouble with braking because the trailer had its own brakes. However, the van only had 230 HP so when going up a steep hill I had to go in 2nd gear. That limits your uphill speed to 30 mph but that is about the best you can do with 230 HP and 13,000 lbs of gross weight. Most 3/4 ton 250 pickups can handle that weight. The main problem is that if your boat is wider than 8' you have to have permits to take it on the road.
     
  8. rwatson
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    Yes, its a dream of mine as well.

    Once my engineer gets into the US after his Atlantic crossing, maybe he can finish off the scantlings of a 28ft Ply and Epoxy , with shower and toilet facilities.
     
  9. brehm62
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    This doesn't make any sense. A 28' boat is not trailerable; it's transportable. These are not the same. Trailerable means it can be towed without permits and can be ramp launched. A transportable boat can be moved (just like a mobile home can be moved) but requires special transport and normally crane launch.
     
  10. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Humm, I think some of the suggestions fall outside the SOR by skipping on one or more of the key elements . . .

    ‘‘ Micro cruiser sailboat -- seaworthy cruising -- realistically trailerable ’’

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    I think ‘‘realistically trailerable’’ in relation with ‘‘micro’’ means towable by the size of a middle class passenger car.

    So a Nor'Sea 27 or similar in size and/or weight doesn't meet the SOR . . :idea:

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    Cheers,
    Angel
     
  11. Angélique
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    Here's a similar thread on the ‘‘Sailboats’’ section of the forum: Small blue water boat?

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
  12. philSweet
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    Clipper marine produced trailer sailers up to 32 feet. Not my personal favorites by Crealock, but decent boats. They were not blue water boats, just lake and bay types, but trailerable they were, not merely transportable.

    I really don't understand people's problems with trailer weight. I've run about 30K GCW with a 127 hp 1/2 ton truck over 12000 foot passes in Colorado. Couldn't have had more than 50HP available at 3000 rpm at 12000 ft. No brakes on that trailer either. Slow down, take it easy, and give yourself plenty of time. Buy the best tires and shocks you can find. Reese makes a 22K hitch- what's the problem? I've never had anything other than your plain vanilla licence. What I do have is a quarter of a million miles of trailering behind me though. An ordinary semi used to be 180-220 hp and they ran 88K if they were legal, and 130K if carrying coal in West Virginia. Largest scaled load was 540K of logs hauled by a Peterbuilt, about 350hp (single trailer, trains have run higher loads). What you need to do is pay heed to your trailering setup and make sure you can put the proper weight on the steering and drive axles, and that the load is positioned correctly on the trailer.This is not rocket science. I spent about $200 outfitting a 1/2 ton Pickup to haul logs in Colorado in the '90s. Truck was worth about $1000. The trailer was worth more than that.

    Not wanting to spend hours putting the boat together, yeah, I understand that. But I can pull 6000 pounds behind a '89 civic 4sp hatchback with a 59 hp motor from Minot to Asheville through a blizzard in December (custom hitch).
     
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    Phil I'm amazed.. 6,000 pounds (2,722 Kg), 1.558 mile (2,508 Km), behind a ± 2,200 pounds (998 Kg) car, is that safe . . . :confused:

    Anyway.. 6,000 pounds (2,722 Kg) for a boat + trailer is more than the asked for Micro . . . ;)

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
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    Normally yes, but this will be under 2 tonne, ( no breakaway brakes on the trailer ) and will be towable by my 3 litre diesel utes easily. It is less than 8 ft wide, in fact it will fit in a container.

    It will use 300 kg of water ballast (dumpable before towing) as well about 150kg of permanent ballast.
     

  15. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    You don't have to stay in the boat, it's difficult driving that way . . . :p

    Cheers ;)
    Angel
     
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