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Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by mighetto, Nov 1, 2004.

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  1. mighetto
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    mighetto New Member

    A historically typical "Frank" response. A LOT of BS that dances around the issue, isn't substantiated, doesn't answer the question, and these days, is mostly just personal insults.

    Did Sudie assign you the 241 I see on your PHRF roster line, Frank? If not, what's your beef? What is it about that 241 that drives you to such obsession, Frank?


    Such a thurst for the truth. I am proud of all of you truth seakers. Let me address the last two lines.

    I have paid for PHRF membership for multiple years. But this is the first year I have been included on the PHRF roster. Sailing Anarchists pointed out that there was a problem and I began the dig into it.

    It turns out that other "little men" have had trouble. Lightening Rod, every year must look into his registration because it gets "lost" frequently. Those teaching Bethwaite are not looked upon favorably by those of the Big Boat TP52 religion :rolleyes:

    The PHRF Board Director I spoke with about Rod's situation explained that Strider has a sail number that is the same as some other boat.... bla bla bla. We are talking about folks that get paid money to do this (take care of PHRF registrations.)

    In my case, my rater likely had trouble owing to someone's objection within PHRF NW to my ride. Sudie Parker under the alias of Tripp Gal and possibly to support Jim Teeters, in a paid or professonal capacity, was active with her Future of Yacht Design thread at this time. And I was made active measuring and remeasuring sails and providing documentation to my rater who did such a great job avoiding the sacrid cow pies that now I am allowed to race as the boat was designed. It took research however. In 2003 the PHRF Seattle Regional Sub-Council proposed a revision to the rating protocol to address water-ballasted boats.

    It was noted that these boats are able to significantly alter their displacement and stability characteristics by dumping ballast water without penalty. Accordingly, a proposal was made to prohibit ballast water dumping during a race. The proposal elicited much discussion but no Motions. It was agreed that the base rating for these boats should be predicated on their optimum speed potential which is presumed to include changes in ballasted configuration during racing. The Council will continue to monitor these boats and adjust their base ratings under review or appeal if warranted.

    The SSSS rater used this to finally get Murrelet rated. But you have to know that his rating - which I think is right on, at one time was reduced to 131. Evidence of that would have been found in the Sailnet Archives - if those still existed. Someone really didn't want Mac26x boats on the race courses at PHRF-NW and still doesn't. Does anyone really think the MacGregor Board was on database maintenance for a week and that when activity moved from there to Sailnet because of the outage that Sailnet wasn't made an offer they could not refuse? Sailnet had a lot of content worth a lot of money. It doesn't seem likely that creditors would allow that content to go away forever without compensation.
     
  2. Tripp Guy
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    Tripp Guy New Member

    Mr. Mighetto,
    My wife has asked you multiple times to leave her alone. I am now telling you to leave her alone. I am no longer in the mood to tolerate your defamation of a person which while you were at the computer making libelous statements against other sailors was giving her time and resources to help other people get out on the water and enjoy sailing.

    If you stop posting, this matter will be dropped. If you choose to continue your current destructive course of behaviour then let me be very clear I will pursue legal action against you.

    In case you are unclear as to the legal grounds:
    Defamation is: An act of communication that causes someone to be shamed, ridiculed, held in contempt, lowered in the estimation of the community, or to lose employment status or earnings or otherwise suffer a damaged reputation. Such defamation is couched in 'defamatory language'. Libel and slander are defamation.

    The elements that must be proved to establish defamation are: (1) A publication to one other than the person defamed; (2) of a false statement of fact; (3) which is understood as being of and concerning the plaintiff; and (4) which is understood in such a way as to tend to harm the reputation of plaintiff.

    You have made accusations. It is now time to see those accusations have their day in court. You are not acting in the capacity of a board member and you do not have board of directors insurance on which to fall back. You have crossed a line that has consequences.

    As for your using government resources to defame people. I am reporting this to the attorney general for the state of washington. We will ask for an AGO opinion about the use of government resources by a contractor to defam people. We will also ask for the AGO opinion on whether the state should be paying for hours billed while you spend your time on the Internet. I do hope you have it in writing in your contract that you can abuse your use of the Internet while on government networks because we are going to find out the hard way now.
     
  3. 101
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    101 Junior Member

    WOW Tripp Guy!! That sure shut him up! I guess after 59 pages the big dog is out on the yard to play.
     
  4. sailsmall
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    sailsmall Senior Member

    Frank will be back. He's too stupid to know when things are really getting serious. In the meantime, here's another story about a MOB at Frank's little yacht club:
    http://www.ssssclub.com/a/ltmob05.htm

    What a cock-up - two accidental gybes in a row resulting in one guy going over board and another getting hit in the face. Too bad one of them wasn't Frank. Frank, why don't you call them names if you are suddenly afraid of Tripp Gal.
     
  5. Mark 42
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    Mark 42 Senior Member

  6. Paul B

    Paul B Previous Member

    Do you really reef this way? I have never heard anything like this, attaching your outhaul to the reef point. I don't think it would be something I would want to attempt and I doubt you have ever reefed this way.

    Generally a separate reef line is used. My favorite way it to have a reef line exit though a sheave at the back of the boom, go up through the aft reef grommet, down the other side then around the bottom of the boom, and up to tie a bowline around the first part that comes from the back of the boom.

    With this arrangement when you pull the reef line it pulls the "new clew" down to the boom and back like an outhaul. It also keeps the excess leech material from flapping about.

    So, to reef, you blow the vang first. This will allow the boom to rise as needed. Next you simultaneously blow the mainsheet and haul on the reef line to the required tension. This should take about 5 to 10 seconds on most boats. The boom will be up at a bit of an angle, but out of the soup.

    Next drop the halyard to a pre-marked reef mark and hook the cunningham hook into the "new tack" and tension. You'll need a cunningham that is rigged to pull both down and slightly forward for this (as many good ones are).

    Haul in the mainsheet and take the slack out of the vang.

    No problem to do this in less than a minute if you have a decent deck layout.

    Reefing is so simple. I don't understand why people have so many strange ideas about it.
     
  7. Rolltacker
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    Rolltacker Junior Member

    My legal council advises that class action is plausible.

    The tribe has spoken.
     
  8. yokebutt
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    yokebutt Boatbuilder

    Anyone know exactly where the irrational entity works?

    Yoke.
     
  9. stevel
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    stevel Lost at sea

    Not sure, but...

    It works under a rock, but I'm not sure which rock.
     
  10. Shife
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    Shife Anarchist

    From his web site of horrors:

    Mighetto & Associates - 1260 NE 69th St. Seattle, WA 98115 - (206) 525-1458 voice and fax
     
  11. yokebutt
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    yokebutt Boatbuilder

    Associates? Surely he's jesting.

    Yoke.
     
  12. Small Wally
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    Small Wally Junior Member

    Jesting? How would you know with that *****.

    His version of reality is so far removed from the collective version that I can imagine him giggling softly to himself, dribbling, and rocking back and forth, at something like, for example, the sun rises in the west.

    Only we all think it rises in the east because we are victims of an advertising/mass hypnosis conspiracy engendered by the vested interests.

    He speaks a different language. If you were to ask him the colour of the sky on his planet, he'd say blue, when what he really means is green, but it translates into the word we know as blue.

    Don't even try to engage.

    Rant over.
     
  13. WildCherry
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    WildCherry Junior Member

    Im betting Trip Guy kicked Franks arse. Dream a little dream
     
  14. Small Wally
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    Small Wally Junior Member

    It makes me glow all over to think that somebody kicked his arse. It give a kind of vicarious satisfaction.

    Only, it won't change him. In his own twisted reasoning, he will have some spin on this kicking that makes complete and logical sense.

    To him, and him alone.

    I would never abuse an animal, but you somehow know that if you hit a dog after it has done something you don't want it to, it will at least get the message that it shouldn't do that again, even if it doesn't know why.

    With this particular facktard, not even a physical beating would stop him.

    There is no solution except......




    The Final Solution.
     

  15. photoboy

    photoboy Guest

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    I hope youy all don't mind this photo stuck in here, it's one of Franks friends looking at someone shooting a full moon in broad daylight, the girl is puking in the cockpit and the fellow with the hat on is wondering if it's microwavable.
     
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