55ft steel hull ??s

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  1. scupper
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    And if you're going to blast do it soon before the warm weather quits
     
  2. glasssurfer
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    i was planning to just wire cup brush and disk grind the bottom. sandblasting is messy and i really dont want to **** with the shellfish on the beach. hear ya as it would do a good job.. but its quite the job.. we'll see. what happens. tanks so much for the help. im deff going to hit it with wasser.
    cheers
    g
     
  3. scupper
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    Well it's just (really fine) sand and iron oxide as brent said, if you think that steel particles are bad for the ocean drag a magnet through the sand on the beach (not to mention most "properly" disposed of stuff ends up washing into the ocean eventually anyway) The inside of that boat is very rusty, wire cupping and sanding will be a big job, sand blasting will be much easier and faster and do a better job, and if you scrounge the sand will only end up costing the rental for the compressor and fuel, it just makes financial sense how many sanding disks are you gonna go through? and no sense spending 3 grand on paint if you're not going to prep the metal, cause it won't really stick to rusty scale, looks like you could get away with it wire cupping most of the outside. Boats don't really rust much on the outside bellow the water line, inside is a bigger problem. And sandblasting isn't really all that bad it's dirty and will destroy you're clothing but a shower after the two or three days will fix all that, or you can spend the next two months wire cupping the entire hull (which unless you're doing something with the grindings will **** with the shellfish as much as sandblasting would).
    As for attaching zincs the cheapest ones I've found are the large weld on one used by fish boats, they are just a steel strap with zinc cast around it, you can either weld them on or weld a couple of stainless bolts to the hull, drill some holes in the strap and bolt them on, I think the holes need to be 18' apart or so to accommodate the zinc. Probably a lot cheaper to make your own but I would make it so you can attach bought ones if you need to.
     
  4. glasssurfer
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    got on some serious zinc. put a drain hole with plug in the bottom, got some material building, just wait, this is going to be a one of a kind glass art studio. u wait and see.

    just out of curiosity, anyone wanna lend me 100k??? hahaha
    g
     
  5. glasssurfer
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    here a wee update for ya, its bee a while, as you can see im not a carpenter. and i dont have any amounts of cashflow. but getting it done slow and steady. still that crazy guy with the huge pirate ship on the beach hahaha people are very positive though.

    my goal was to have a dry warm room by october. i called this phase 1

    phase one is complete, dry room with insulation and a nice new metal roof with a woodstove bed and windows. and working on the rest of the phases.

    next goal is to move the boat to new location for sandblasting and painting.

    the next phase of building on the deck is going to come after im moved to the new location. seen in pic.

    as you can see im not going for anyhing "conventional"

    if **** hits the fan i can always burn the ***** down and sell it for scrap right! hahahahaha


    thanks for the help so far eveyone.

    everything so far has set me back a total of.

    boat 2k
    wood, polly, tar paper, nails staples insulation . around 500-600
    new 6500W generater 600


    ps everying done so far has been mostly with recycled materials and salvaged stuff.

    pull up a seat and enjoy this project as i know i am. learning lots and finding out everyong has great advise, i just gotta sift through it!

    these pics are from a few months ago. the rest of the neck is now framed up and realy for building of the next phase.

    more pics to come as the weather turns and i getter moved
     

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  6. glasssurfer
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    more pics
     

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  7. glasssurfer
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    cheers folks positive input appreaciated.
     
  8. Wynand N
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    OK, in all honesty, this will make Brent Swain proud.... Beautiful neighborhood and views though
     
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  9. timothy22
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    You wear me out just looking at all that stuff you moved. Do my eyes deceive me, is that a picture of it floating? Thanks for the update, good job so far.
     
  10. glasssurfer
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    cheers fols, it was floating, and has floated a couple times in high high tieds, currently sitting real nice ona protected beach.

    really excited to move it i got a tow boa tlined up and a plan to get it rolling. got a good burst of energy coming. cant wait. im looking into deodestic domes and i would LOVE to build a HUGE still in this beast. that is supposedly what it was ment for.

    o yeha and new pieceto the story, this thing was nicknames" The Iron Curtain."

    and ive been doing this pretty much all myself with basic handtoools. just got the genny.

    and as for paint jobs, just wait untill u see what i have planned.
     
  11. bntii
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    Maybe for light rust- if scale you will just be polishing the rust and any pitting will remain unprepped..

    Blasting or scaling with a needle gun.
    Blasting preferred.


    Ditto on throwing $ at improperly prepped steel- It will be rust streaking again before you finish painting.
     
  12. glasssurfer
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    thanks im going to take this advise and give a good sandblast once i get to its new home
     
  13. CatBuilder

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    DAMN! That is a cool project. I like the "if it's not right, I can just torch it and start over" stuff. Also the hammer picture. ha ha ha

    Great project, great attitude and it looks like a lot of fun!
     
  14. glasssurfer
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    couple inside shots wiggum came from an old elementery school 10 sheets of aready painted with neat artwork 1/2 inch ply. good deal for taking it off the walls. nails too!
     

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  15. CatBuilder

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    Totally blown away. If I wasn't earning a living from the boat I am building, I'd love to do something like this.

    You said it needed a tow to be moved? Any plans for an engine?

    How did you waterproof the roof? Windows?

    I heated my last 2 boats with woodstoves made in the San Juan Island, WA state. There is nothing so nice as a toasty warm cabin (with Clancy Wiggum staring you down) when it's cold out. The wood stove keeps it warm and dry.

    Keep us updated. Keep the pics coming.
     
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