Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

At that time this was the largest ship I had ever been on so I had nothing to compare it to. The next step up a few years later was a very large car ferry from Southampton to LeHarve. The ferry seemed huge in comparison.

It was only last year that I have ever ventured onto a modern floating hotel. Very different for sure. We did have a life boat drill before we ever left port and did not conduct any "tourist navigation" fly byes of rocky shore lines. The most uneasy moment was when approaching the Straits of Messina, there was a very strong wind from the starboard side. After picking up the pilot for navigating the strait, the ship turned to starboard, like "coming about" in a sailboat, until the wind was on the port side. The ship immediately took on a heavy list to starboard but gradually righted itself. I found out later they could not pump the water from the starboard ballast tanks over to the port tanks fast enough. It was a very strong wind.

 

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I found out later they could not pump the water from the starboard ballast tanks over to the port tanks fast enough. It was a very strong wind.

 

nothing important will change on the design of these ships

they maybe need 10 watertight bulkheads,
to 3 or more metres above waterline
no watertight doors below
which never get shut when needed
each compartment to be treated as a tank space,with elevators and plenty of stairs

tra la la

what a waste of life
and words

 

I also asked at http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/simulating-costa-concordia-41365.html if the Costa Concordia disaster were modeled and simulated what structural costs would be required for it not to sink, either to limit the damage or deal with it.

It would be interesting to see how the flooding and timeline would have affected the ship if it had not been beached.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abgang_rettungsboot.gif

Better lifeboat launch off stern not hampered by heel. Boats could be on a railway in a line...like rollercoaster cars.

 

There is a report from a engineer who went directly to the engine room after the collision. By the time he arrived, the compartment was lost- the flooding appears to have been immediate and catastrophic

 

Gianneke
I don't understand what you mean with this statement
.
Also in post # 650 you write about a "turbine engine"?
Do you mean a turbine like in a jet engine for airplanes or an engine with a turbo compressor. These are two different things
Or am i misunderstanding your English?
JP

 

Or Cazzo's Hideaway or Cazzo's Nascondiglio or the Giglio Nascondiglio

 

Is there any information about which engine room compartment(s) exactly has(have) been flooded ?

Main engines (main electrical generators, for I suppose Costa Concordia has an electrical propulsion) ?

Engine control room ?

Other engine room, such as pump room or fuel handling and treatment ?


Francois-Xavier Nettersheim

 

A major italian newspaper, Corriere Della Sera, today reports the story told by Alberto Fiorito, the engineer who was on watch that night: http://www.corriere.it/cronache/12_...ni_bc18615a-4592-11e1-9389-b1111b488a17.shtml
His words (sorry if the translation of some technical terms is not up to standards)

"Around 9.30 p.m. i sensed a bank towards starboard, then all towards port side, then to starboard again. Everything flew down from the console. In a moment I've heard the thump under the central (ital. "centrale"). All shaked. I understood that we had hit something. I got up and called down in machine room to call an evacuation. All the alarms went off. I have left the central to go open the aspiration of large masses (ital.: "aspirazione grandi masse").
Going down to the ramp on the bridge B in forward generators room I opened the door and saw the gaping hole in side of the vessel and the water rushing in ... Within two minutes everything was completely flooded. I opened the door of the electrical switchboard room but there were already almost two meters of water. Pilon (Chief engineer) has asked me to aspire but it was all was submerged and the pumps didn't start up.
The blackout was almost immediate. We counted five flooded compartments and we knew that the ship can withstand only up to three..."​

 

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Engines: a 70 hp engine can't be a turbine....u don't know?
means it active jet propulsion (turbine).
Usually a jet boat does not fly.
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Thanks for the link + translation Daiquiri, much better than by machine . .

I wonder if the responsible ones at the company will get charged for the cover-up action that followed, that they knew of and maybe ordered, after they got this news as first . . . . .

As an aside . . . . . .



At first I thought Schettino was helping the passengers, but it appears his brother works in London . .



Cheers,
Angel

 

brother is the one with the white skirt, I suppose.

 

Thank you very much Daiquiri for the info and the traduction !

I understand that the engine officer was in the engine control room which is his normal position for a night watch.

After the collision, he has carried out a quick investigation and he has immediately realized the gravity of the situation.

My interpretation is that he has tried to use the emergency bilge system suction (which in any case is not designed for such flooding !); the chief engineer has asked him the same action.

According to your translation, five compartments have been flooded.

This supports my assumption in previous post that the ship has definitively lost her main electrical supply. As a consequence nobody on the bridge has been able to use bow thrusters or wathever since the vessel was only supplied by emergency diesel generator (which is only providing let say approx. 600/700 kW no more). Bow thrusters (and aft ones) are 1500 kW each minimum for such a vessel. Main propulsion (main propellers) was not anymore usable also.

First conclusion -obviously to be confirmed- could be that the vessel after collision has stopped and then drifted to her last and present position pushed by NE winds (around 12 knots according to some info read in previous posts).



Francois-Xavier Nettersheim

 

Mmmmmm

Ship is bent in the opposite direction to the leak, which originally hung.
lies on three points of the bottom, but declines in the wrong direction.
If it came with the wind as could exceed the three-point support?
How could settle down hill?

Unfortunately, they did away with the VCR movies ....