Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by daiquiri, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. michael pierzga
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    michael pierzga Senior Member

    Yes...that is the only chart I have in my folio.
     
  2. Gian Milan

    Gian Milan Previous Member

    yet I am sure that if the Costa had a rib 300 * 500 every 5 m, would not be here talking about sinking.
     
  3. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    depends on the vessel, Michael,
    sometimes I have a suite. office bedroom head on ships

    on tugs i have a bedroom with a desk in it and a connecting head to mates room

    all depends on vessel
     
  4. Earl Boebert
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    Earl Boebert Senior Member

    Speculation on a much less reliable forum has it that the grounding was not intentional, but rather that the turn was made by the bow thrusters under emergency power and then the ship drifted or was blown to shore. I'd be interested in knowing what the experienced mariners here think of that notion.

    Earl
     
  5. bntii
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    .

    I am laying odds that the ship turned with no input from crew and that in fact all means of propulsion were casualties of the accident.
    I took a good look at the track and speeds- the ship neatly turns at the precise moment that all way was off her.

    She accelerates to 1.4 knots as she rotates which I just take as spinning as she comes about, then settles back to the .7 knots as the slide down wind commences.
    I see no further imputes to axial orientation till the stern hits and the bow tucks into the coast.
    I don't think a single control input was made to the ship after the initial right rudder immediately after the strike.

    Far more experienced voices than mine on this forum have put their chip on other squares..

    It will be interesting to see the findings of the full investigation.
     
  6. armando12
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    armando12 BalckRock

    Just read than of the VDR is broken and they cannot retreive data from it...
     
  7. Arch99
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    Not an expert but my bet is with Bntii--they clearly had power for lights as they grounded but given the lack of other organized crew response seems more likely they did nothing than that some smart junior officer thought of using bow thruster and figuring out what that would do. I wish they did, but from the track it looks like they just coasted to a stop and were blown ashore. I hope it is otherwise but seems more like miraculous dumb luck; with no wind or current they would have gone down offshore in deep water, but still with no organization. I'll do my cruising with the better crew of Holland America, no more Carnival for me. Somewhere tonight a dozen writers are starting books and screenplays on all this.

    Or the freighter cruise looks good too.
     
  8. Jolly Amaranto
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    Yes, I have done that also. It was a fun adventure.
     
  9. Submarine Tom

    Submarine Tom Previous Member

    Ya, they're completely safe!!!

    -Tom
     
  10. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Hey Tom, living is dangerous ;)
    you will die in the end . . . :p

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
  11. powerabout
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    powerabout Senior Member

    maybe the Captain understood the life boats are useless on a healed boat so getting close to the shore would save lives for those that will jump?
     
  12. powerabout
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    powerabout Senior Member

    You are only required to have make up air on a passenger vessel AC.

    Could you build a building with such poor regulations..no

    120 guys in a 80m dive vessel and no make up air..nice industry
    One good thing the Unions in OZ have done is say goodbye to vessels like this that should have been scrapped 50 years ago.
     
  13. Mr Efficiency
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    I dare say the strange case of the Costa Concordia will figure prominently in textbooks about professional seamanship, in the future. The sad part is several dozen people had to die, for the alarm bells to start ringing.
     
  14. BPL
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    BPL Senior Member

    I am not excusing any death or proposing poor ship design.
    But according to http://www.uscgboating.org/statistics/accident_statistics.aspx in 2010 and the USA alone, there were 672 boating deaths and 3153 injuries, 5.4 deaths per 100,000 registered vessels. 64 deaths were due to collision with another boat, 38 due to collision with a fixed object, 72 due to flooding, 15 skiers, and 180 capsize. The #1 accident cause was "operator inattention" and #2 was "improper lookout."
     

  15. Gian Milan

    Gian Milan Previous Member

    Unfortunately, it is even sadder that nothing is playing.
    I think I'm a rational person with a good sailing experience.
    For years, I am suspicious of this type of boats.
    now I'm sure they are old tubs.

    Not a line in the press about the safety of these boats has appeared.

    I suppose it will not appear.
    Indeed, I hope that does not appear, because this will happen to the next incident.
    It will be for all the world a sample of Italian justice.
     
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