Somali pirates

i think they should have a few bleeding cuts on thier legs.then drop them in the water,no boat,just a preserver.then you can tell the bible thumpers and and those who believe the us is at blame for all evil, that it wasnt our fault, GOD made the sharks hungry

 

No need. After a time in the water the pirates will have to pee etc., all of which attract predators.

 

Piracy is also becoming more prevailent on the west coast of Afrika
The irony is that some of these are very "oil rich" countries

yet they still borrow money ??
Here is the case of Angola. Read attachment.
Just goes to show once again that these people cant and never will be able to rule themselves, they simply haven't got it.

So guys, please tell who ever you know that is out there cruising or sailing, the West coast is also becoming a problem and dont become another statistic.

A bit of good news is that Seychelles has signed an agreement with China to set up a naval base in the Seychelles to fight the Somali pirates. I think this could work because the Chinese do things their way and DONT ASK PERMISSION from the over regulated wimps of the "west"

The joke of course is because the Africans are hopeless at governance they have effectively worked the "westeners" colonialist europeans out - only to be replaced by the Chinese.
We can see this everyday here - THE NEW BOSS IS IN TOWN

The real tragedy is that altough piracy will be curbed, a new form of slavery is slowly being introduced, so Africans will never be free.
When the Chinese are finished, there will be nothing left but barren dead soil. The Africans have only themselves to blame, corrupt governments supported by silly people AND borrowing money from the west NON STOP

I am really happy for all the Americans that are home from Iraq, just really hope that America will start looking after it's own and stop throwing money away on hopeless "charities"

 

Africans moved out of the Stone Age several thousand years ago. For some odd reason, they seem to have skipped the Bronze Age and gone directly to working iron.

The ancient Nubians met the ancient Egyptians on an equal basis, and in fact conquered and ruled Egypt for a while.

The Nok culture in what is now Nigeria lasted for about 1500 years, and preceded the Yoruba culture. They were advanced in working iron and other metals, and some of their terra cotta sculptures depict people on horseback.

To quote John G Jackson, "The picture we get today of Africa in past ages from the history taught in our schools is that Africans were savages and that, although Europeans invaded their lands and made slaves of them, they were in a way conferring a great favor on them, since they brought to them the blessings of Christian civilization."

What you're dealing with today is largely the result of 400 years of white dominance and exploitation, where black cultures and power structures were destroyed and creating a top-down social and political structure where the locals weren't trusted or taught, --leaving a vacuum when that white dominance ended.

I have no doubt you consider me an arrogant and naive outsider, making judgments from thousands of miles away. But I think I'm fairly objective because I'm an outsider, looking at the overall history of Africa (and mankind in general) rather than just the current situation. I believe the problems you're experiencing with black Africans can be explained culturally and historically, rather than by positing lazy genes and pirate genes.... it isn't in their DNA.

And of course, everything you say about Africans over there, I've heard about blacks and Mexicans here. Go back 100 years, and Americans were saying the same sort of stuff about Filipinos after they occupied the Philippine Islands. Go back 150 years, and you can read similar things about the Irish in America.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, I think.

 

dont worry you are right anyway

absolutely true

but here comes the punch-line

You have got to see how the Chinese are moving in and taking over !
simply unbelievable - at lightning speed

so for the next 400 years - I feel desperately sorry for Africans
this time round there will be nothing left

sorry not 400 years, lets rather try 40
very sad - very true

and from what I read so far - West Coast (Somali) African piracy will slowly wilt away
because it hampers China's economy

 

And I just want to add to that

I feel very sorry for the American and European tax payer
it is your hard earned cash that is going down the toilet here

your taxes "should" give you better schools, hopital plans, and retirements (and much more)

so it is you that are actually getting the short end of the stick

go figure

 

I've worked all over the world. Came back from 9 months in Nigeria Feb 2011. Daily expecting orders to go back.
Can't say all of africa is still tribal warfare, but a lot of hate between various tribes still exists.
In Nigeria, they still scar their kids faces to show tribe. One group has verticle scars on face, the other diagonal, nearly horizontal scars. Only one tribe can be in political power at a time. Frequent coues in Nigeria. Because the tribe out of power get treated like dirt. Nigeria is the skeleton coast. Where a large % of slaves were loaded few hundred years ago. The hate word for blacks comes from the Niger River there. Whites didn't make them slaves. They bought the slaves from which ever tribe was dominant at the moment. Obviously the "slaves" were from the disenfranchised, dethroned tribe

 

Africans have a blockage in their brain. This does not mean they are dumb - some are clever but they think differently and they have different perceptions than does us EU's and many perceptions are not understood.

They function better under supervision and dictatorship threat, not trust.

When they get a little bit of power they completely loose the plot and become a god.

They will be friendly in front of you but when you turn your back they will put a knife in you.

Anyway here's some pages on the truth about SA http://www.faze.co.za/South Africa Truth/Index Page.htm

 

Apologies

East coast - Somalia and Seychelles

 

So that I'm not mis-understood. I am not defending slavery. It's terrible. My only point was for most of human history, slaves were an accepted part of life. i'm sure the slaves weren't enthusiastic about it. But given their freedom, they'd have been happy to own a few themselves.
The saddest, heartbreaking, hatefullest thing about slavery in the US was, "You slaves get to work in them fields!" "Yassuh, daddy"

 

Some of my ancestors came over as indentured servants.

 

A large % of Australia are descended from transported prisoners, who became settlers after their prison term. I imagine some were bad men indeed! But the crime of many was indebtedness. Poverty. Exiled and sentenced to hard labor because economy went south and you lost your job and couldn't pay debts? How is that so different than warring africans selling off captured prisoners? Let's let the ghosts sleep. Judging other cultures and other times by moral standards of today, really isn't fair. If it is fair, then that justifies someone with different cultural mores pointing finger at us today.

 

No single race corners the market on atrocious acts, and no single race is guiltless.

 

exactly

 

Hi Manie, east and west coast have pirates. I read the story of the mad South African who in a 5m sailboat cicumnavigated (or tried) and if I remember right he went up the South West African coast and had to sail away from land where he knew pirates were.