ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    where do you come up with this stuff Hoyt

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    there is absolutely no statistically viable increase in arctic sea ice extent over the last 40 years

    Hello
    do you see the graph fro the national snow and ice data center
    no increasing ice mass

    Mark
    I'm just trying to move forward with my own personal plans. In order to best do that I need to know what to plan for. The science is very clear on this and its foolish to not take it into account. Larger waves, more sever storms, changing currents and overall warmer weather, more expensive fuel, less "store bought" goods available. Times are changing and it would do one well to change with them.

    I"ll be going with a rugged low tec approach like the Atkins Great Bear I was looking at before I got hosed on the Haida Princes. I would have liked the princess but it was a bit delicate looking anyway so oh well.

    Whatever it is its got to carry my fuel processor and all my tools, Deal is I'm relatively done arguing elements of science that were settled 50 ~100 years ago and move forward now that I'v another fat remodel job starting next week.

    I need to rent a warehouse space and make some forward progress. Its not a mater of closed minded its a mater of there being a serious lack of science to the contrary which of course, includes the lack of any competing working theory.

    cheers
    B
     
  2. mark775

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    Arctic sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles since '07! Did you get into some of CTHippy's 'shroom stash, Wad? Transparent the way warmers tailor stats to favor their argument.
     
  3. mark775

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    Well, I do this forum as a source of intertainment, Bos. We should probably both be out doing something productive. No minds getting changed here. Hey! how about cod and shark liver oil? What would we have to do to make good fuel use of them after we eat the good parts? BTW, why do your graphs not show where the data came from?
     
  4. WickedGood

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    cod and shark liver oil

    Do you know any Buyers for the Livers?

    How must one treat them upon cleaning the COD to present the most valuable product to market?

    What is the Going price?



    COD Season opens March 15th and


    how about selling the Cod Livers Mail Order thru the Interweb?

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  5. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    Cod liver oil. Grew up on it. Explains my anchovie craving on pizza. On a boat of course!
     
  6. mark775

    mark775 Guest

    No. I was hoping Bos had a process for turning them into useful fuel. Some cosmetic surgeon is burning lipo-proceeds to get home so I suppose it it feasable but I don't know the process.
     
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    My grandma swore by Geritol. We broke a bottle once at the old Paintsville Herald printshop once about the same year as the following video. The smell never left until the building burnt to the ground. It was nasty smelling stuff.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pni9ZePXR-w
     
  8. Boston

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    not quite the environmentally sound source of fuel I was thinking of given that the fish stocks and cod specifically are seriously on the decline.

    politicians maybe
    dogs and cats would be ok
    republicans would likely smell bad but I'm sure they'd burn just fine

    speaking of which this is from the Pew Report

    http://www.pewclimate.org/hurricanes.cfm#change

    this one is published in Nature

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7051/full/nature03906.html
    the NOAA predicts the following in a nicely in-depth article concerning the increasing intensity of storms worldwide
    http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes

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    obviously any plans to take to the water must also include action plans to deal with a changing climate.
     
  9. hoytedow
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    To go to the water without action plans to deal with a changing environment would certainly raise the IQ of humanity as a whole.
     
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    zerogara build it and sail it

  11. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    Thing is the oceans are changing faster than predicted in a number of areas. I'm just hoping it not as exponential as say Dr Jackson suggests

    look up and watch his lecture "A Brave New Ocean"
     
  12. mark775

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    Okay, I guess we should just continue to toss the livers of a couple of million metric tons of cod catch every year.
     
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    some here seem to think that ice skates will replace life vests
     
  14. mark775

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    Looking at the other thread, I guess I have to quit calling you "Wad". Will "Double D" do?
     

  15. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    not at all
    if your tossing them anyway then by all means we should be making something out of it. My vision would be for a processing ship that could refuel the fleet at sea with there own waste. or at least partially.

    its a good idea as long as its just scrap anyway
    let me look into the yield on fish guts and see what kind of quantities we are talking about per ton
     
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