BOAT design / manufactoring in CHINA

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  1. botenoutlet
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    botenoutlet botenoutlet.nl

    Please post information about MANUFACTORS / DESIGNERS in CHINA.
     
  2. botenoutlet
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    botenoutlet botenoutlet.nl

    Is there anyone who knows manufactors in CHINA?
    We are looking for manufactors of boats in China so we can import that boats to The Netherlands.

    We are planning to make a trip to China this spring, but we need some good leeds to make specific apointments there.

    We want to import:

    Boats up to 10 - 12 meter

    Made of: polyester, glassfiber, steel.

    Models: sailing-, fishing-, speed-, sportboats.


    Please let me know.

    Kind regards,

    Arie
     
  3. genuineyachts
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    genuineyachts Junior Member

    Re: Boat Manufacturers in China

    Hi,

    We are located in China and are very familiar with those quality boat manufacturers here.

    Feel free to contact us as per my below address and kindly drop me at sales@genuinemarine.com



    Yours truly
    James Georgechen
    Genuine Marine Ltd
    We Help Build Better Boats
    Tel:86-755-21166358
    Fax:86-755-26810705
    Mobile: 86-13823654956
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  4. in Thailand better quality

    Better qualiy, better materials, best quality/labour cost ratio. Why You don't consider Thailand ?
    We use AOC vynil ester resin (product in Thailand), biaxiall and triaxiall cloth Lloyds and Norske Veritas certificates.
    We build under ISO standards and we assure CE marks.
    V.I.P., vacuum infusion process under development on a new 30 ft Lobster Boat.
    Also the best teak in the world, choosed direct form the log sawnmill.
    Pradoo, Mapl, Ash and many others exotic woods for interiors cabinet works.
    And at the end experencied Italian Management.
    We had exported in Europe and US and we are developing a new product that will be exported to Norway.
    Please take a look at our gallery A****** Boats or our website www.*******boatyard.com (note:will be also update soon with more boats) or contact for a free quotation at info@*******boatyard.com
    Thanks for Your consideration
     
  5. Mikey
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    Mikey Senior Member

    botenoutlet,
    Looking at Asia is a good initiative, although beware, or rather - Know what you are doing and DON'T trust your new business partner easily, don't take for granted that everything is as agreed of course (that's your responsibility to check) and use a good lawyer to make up the contract (well, the contract is not of much use if things go wrong but still better than nothing).

    It is my personal opinion and experience that doing business in Thailand is less of a hassle than in China, I would certainly have a good look at Thailand too if I were you.

    Mikey
     
  6. Mikey, nice to know that You are doing business in Thailand, where are You? Could You visit us anytime if You are a boat lover. Anyway, nobody here try to find a partner, or make a business without a contract, just propose an alternative on the boatbuilding market. It was Botenoutlet that asked about!!
    Anyway all our contracts is issued and supervised by an international layers company in Bangkok, sometime is real that the boatbuilder have to be safe by the customers!!.
    Hope to know You soon.
     
  7. Mikey
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    Mikey Senior Member

    The topic of boat manufacturing in Asia has stirred up rather strong feelings (and opinions from people who perhaps should know more about the topic before they post) in the past, wonder what will come out of this thread...

    I am actually very positive indeed when it comes to looking at Asia as an alternative to manufacturing in the US and Europe, but I would also recommend people to survey well and take their time before they decide.

    Philippines is too messy, Vietnam too bureaucratic, Malaysia too expensive and Indonesia... China and Thailand are good choices indeed and both deserves to be surveyed.

    A******,
    Not doing any business any longer, I’m afraid. Full time salary slave at an American multi-national company nowadays - and a boat lover who rarely get out of Bangkok..

    Respectfully
    Mikey
     
  8. kany_leo
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    kany_leo Junior Member

    yeah, true guys, i am a Chinese international student studying boatbuilding in nz, working back in China is what i look forward to, honestly i don't know the situation of boatbuilding in my own country(i mean the cruising boat), shame on me, but can you tell me a bit about that? sorry for this side track
     
  9. genuineyachts
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    genuineyachts Junior Member

    China Yacht Building Industry

    I personally believe no matter in which region you are going to build the boats you will definitely have pros and cons in certain level.

    It depends on how you make good use of the available resources, proceed the business and relationship with the local yards, understand and respect the culture and education difference between the nations and peoples.

    Boatbuilding is really joint work of the designer, the marketer, the boatbuilder, the dealer and all the relating units and it does require for a good general business plan.

    By the way what do you want to know about Yachting in China, Kany Leo?

    James Georgechen
    Genuine Marine Ltd
    We Help Build Better Boats
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    Email: sales@genuinemarine.com
     
  10. Thunderhead19
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    I find the modern industrialization of china fascinating. I think that it is going to be a really good thing for the world wide economy because it will stimulate commerce everywhere. I hope that it is done with a careful eye on health, safety and the environment. I have heard that theft of intellectual property is rampant in china and that the laws are indifferent to it. I have seen opportunities for employment in china setting up manufacturing facilities, but I have been a bit worried about not getting paid and then getting booted out of the country for making a fuss about it. These are my pre concieved ideas about working in china, and they are based on rumours, and firsthand stories that I don't entirely believe. I'm just looking for the truth. Does anyone have any positive stories about working in china?
     
  11. genuineyachts
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    genuineyachts Junior Member

    True Stories of China Yacht Industry from First Hand

    Hi, Thunderhead,

    Drop me an email at: sales@genuinemarine.com and I might be able to introduce some westerners who have been working and building yachts in China for years. They are currently living in China and some of them are the owners of the boatyards here.

    They might be able to give you some firsthand ideas from the perspective of the western people.

    Yours truly
    James Georgechen
    Genuine Marine Ltd
    We Help Build Better Boats
    Web: www.genuinemarine.com
    Email: sales@genuinemarine.com
     
  12. kany_leo
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    kany_leo Junior Member

    just call me kany if u like, i just want to know about the trend of crusing boat making in china, is that affordable for people in the city where u located in, or just a few rich people. i haven't been going bk to china for 2 years really, so i am kind of outdated for that even i am doing a relating course in nz, thx
     
  13. Mikey
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    Mikey Senior Member

    The industrialization of all of Asia is fascinating, but it may result in a cruel awakening in the western world one day. Asians work really hard! We are not there yet by far, but as system and efficiency improves over here, will the European and American boat building industry be able to survive? As we see it today - No, I don't think so.

    Still, there are many problems to solve, Thunderbolt, you are definitely on the right track. Culture, as James mentions is another very! important thing, never to underestimate or ignore (unless one want to walk home empty handed) - but that is simply related to respect (which one don't get very far without in Asia ;) ).

    Thunderhead, thinking of moving to China if you get a serious job offer? The only thing I can guarantee is that it will change you, for me that was a very positive experience.
     
  14. kany_leo
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    true true, china is developing at all of the aspects nowadays. setting up of a business there which is really a great thinking. actually many people get it done already. i didn't mention that was so quick that the boat building industry established in china
     

  15. jameshogan
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    boat building in china

    This is not as good of an idea as one may think. Quality is very poor, as compared to other yards. Short cuts abound, subsitute inferior quality materials is the rule, not the exception. I was given prices (for sailboat and sport fisher) HIGHER than I could build in the US by a number of yards in china. When I told them this, they said their brand new yard with brand new workers who just learned how to layup glass and run electrical could build better vessels than yards in the US that have been operating for years. Though they wouldnt give a warranty to back up their boastful claims.

    There are SO many factors to consider for building in china. You really need an onsite manager who is not chinese who really knows their stuff. You have to pay this person, then you need to pay for all sorts of other things, travel, shipping. alllll sorts of stuff. If you have no onsite person, you will have have an inferior quality vessel full of short cuts. This is a fact not someones thoughts. I suppose there may be a yard out there that is the exception, but you will pay for it. Why bother going through the hassle? Im beginning to ask myself that very question.
     
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