Unauthorised use of Name - False affirmation

On Wednesday

 

Richard is right. We do need to use the negatives as Jeff pointed out, he has linked rights and privileges to the points level.
This has been done so that we can limit the posters ourselves, and Jeff expects us to do this rather than to get him to ban someone. If we don’t award negs’ then the forum doesn’t work as Jeff envisages it should. Just reserve them for serious delinquency.

 

I'll be attending the METS if anyone would care to meet up.

With regards to China and fraudalent activities - if you have a problem with a 'boat builder' in China send me the details and I'll attend to it if I can.
There are internal mechanism in China that are activily policing industrial and trade practices with successful results.

There is an increasing number of Chinese owned and Chinese/foreign JV businesses here putting out good boat products. But like any other country you get wannabees without the expertise and straightout scammers

 

Do You have boatbuilding industry association in China?

 

This is the one we mentioned:

http://www.uidyacht.com/

Regards
Richard

 

Please confirm if:

Michela R is the name of the NA wrongfully listed on UID site?

Can anyone confirm if any of the yachts illustrated are poached?

 

I believe Maxime (the guy who opened this thread) is Maxime Le Mounier, cited in this page: http://www.uidyacht.com/abouthistory.htm
Michela Reverberi has a design studio in Italy http://www.reverberidesign.it, and you could send them an e-mail and see if she is aware of being mentioned as a partner.

As about your second question, the site originaly had a "Current Projects" page displaying some works from young designers who have partecipated in Seatec MYDA Award. The pictures were taken from Sea-Tec pages but were presented as "the projects that we do it now" (bad english, by the way). I had complained about this in my post #4 and #6 here: http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/services-employment/need-na-yacht-designer-34615.html#post400244
and after that they have made few changes, basically by renaming the incriminated "Current Projects" page into "Conceptual Design" http://www.uidyacht.com/conceptualdesign.htm (but still with no mention of, or credit to, the real authors of those designs) and then creating a new "Current Projects" section http://www.uidyacht.com/currentprojects.htm, with some new pics.

Internet is a very volatile place, so things change quickly.

 

I wonder why SEATEC organizers do not add their logo and designer's name on renderings, big size, in unremovable manner? I understand that this is not allowed for competition (just preparing our entry now), but it could be done prior to placing those shots on the website, to prevent such illegal use of designers work.

 

There's no national accredited body that regulates or sets policy for our industry that I'm aware of. There are some industry trade associations for aluminium manufacturers, automotive production etc.
I think the introduction of new industries like yacht building plus the massive industrial growth/trade expansion happened to fast for necessary trade regulatory bodies to keep up with.

But when they do and police get involved they don't mess about.
This week several execs were arrested for paying bribes to spread internet lies about a competitors baby milk formular in September. These guys will probably get much deserved 10yrs and there's no such thing as low sec. country farm prisons.

 

Well, let's not overreact now... A nice fee by some regulatory body is ok, but police and prison (a chinese prison) - that sounds too much to me.
Or maybe I'm just thinking in a too italian (= soft) way...

 

Look around - may builders around the World use photos of boats built by others on their websites. This refers to sisterships built from stock designs. Sometimes they make comment on that, most of time they do not...

For the designs - still I have no answer how to protect our images from unauthorised use. Now we are trying to make them small size for the web; and refer to bigger size photos/rendering/drawings published in magazines.

 

I am well aware of such a control mechanism / body in China.
Product piracy is a severe issue there and the governement reacts extremely rigid IF they react. But the time when a backyard business could screw western brands without consequence is long gone.

I would not argue about the common penalty there (I know several years are common practice in such case), these guys knew the consequence in advance and took the risk.

my 2C
Richard

 

I sent these guys an email, English and Mandarin explaining professional behaviour and shame on them if they are misrepresenting themselves and others - that matters in China because loss of face.
They understand I can also cause them problems in the local industry and boat shows so hopefully you'll get a result.

 

Dear all ,

My name has been taken off their website, thank you very much !!!

 

Congratulations!