Do the Chinese like Sailing?

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by CatBuilder, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Landlubber
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    Landlubber Senior Member

    Apex, Good point about India, and they are boating people and they like the sun and they have money, and I am a goose for not thinking of them that way.

    India also speaks English, which is a great start for a business.....
     
  2. hollyqie1984
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    if you want to do a investment,go China,there are more than 10 million rich people live here.
    :eek::eek::eek::eek: they like to buy luxury products.
     
  3. troy2000
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    Sounds like a lot of the Chinese would agree with whoever it was that said, "going to sea is being in prison, with the added chance of drowning."


    I like that MudSucken Happy Twruck. Great pic.
     
  4. Leo Lazauskas
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    Maybe they could start with really small boats, like expensive, radio-controlled, one-metre class models. :)
     
  5. apex1

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    Not only that John.

    They have a functioning middle class which made their wealth without cheats and crime. China has not
    They have a functioning infrastructure since ages. China has not
    They Have proper (two way) business connections with the world. China has not
    They have the right behaviour in business relations. China has not
    They have invested in western industries since 30 years. China has not
    They have a own industry which is properly structured and independent from political protection. China has not
    They have a hughe pool of industry leaders (many studied in EU or US) which are familiar with "western" business. China has not
    They have managed that every citicen who has finished school speaks English. (not even the US did) China has not
    They have shown their value as honest partners in joint ventures. China has not
    They have grasped their position as the worlds largest democracy. China has not

    The list is endless, and dead sure, YOU could add twenty lines more.

    There are hundreds of western companies which have left China already, and they will never go back. Not backyard business, the most valuable group is coming back, the medium sized!

    In 20 years you will see that China is still what it was in the past decades, the worlds workbench.
    India will make the rules then, based on knowledge, skills and experience. And a positive behaviour in business relations of course!

    Regards
    Richard
     
  6. watchkeeper

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    Have to disagree with you on some issues

    I live in China on the coast, I spend every day dealing with people interested in boats for private use, we build 40-50 privately owned motor yachts a year.

    As to the waters, I visited a protected island bird sanctuary with Parks manager last Saturday, dropped my pick in 10mt and saw it hit the bottom, the same as in Moreton Bay, Brisbane also my home town.

    Two weeks ago, with winter about to kick in, temps around 10C people were swimming at Tiger Beach, not adventerous, try mountain climbing with these guys for a day.

    I live and work in China's yacht building (alloy) and you may think China is not going to be the single largest yacht marketing opportunity in the future, try explaining that to the Chinese millionaires & bullionaires already buying super yachts.

    Richard: Chinese make things happen, India...2010 Commonwealth Games fiasco come on, get serious, think about what you saying.
    I spent 2 wasted years trying to get an Indian owned/managed shipyard operational. Five different cultures, religions, all corrupt, lazy and refuse to accept responsibility for making a decision.
     
  7. Landlubber
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    watchkeeper, that is real interesting to me, you must be in the south.
     
  8. apex1

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    yes, with our money and knowledge!

    Wait and see, it is mute to discuss Asias future here. But don´t underestimate India.

    The question, as far as I understood Catbuilder, had nothing to do with the Chinese boat market btw. He wanted to know about the potential of Chinese charterers in his business. And that is dead zero. The Chinese (as mentioned above) don´t charter yachts in any noticeable numbers.

    Regards
    Richard
     
  9. watchkeeper

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    Hi Landlubber

    I'm based in Dalian, Liaoning province - Manchurian north
     
  10. Landlubber
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    Dailan eh, and how many yacht clubs and marinas are there, none.

    Nice place to work though mate, are you building 40 to 50 motor yachts for local use...that is one hell of a lot of boats made from alloy mate.
     
  11. ancient kayaker
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    ancient kayaker aka Terry Haines

    Perhaps the attitude of Chinese and some other Asians to boating is like their attitude to tennis about 20 years ago and to gymnastics about 40 years ago. They just haven't got around to it yet.
     
  12. watchkeeper

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    ehehehnnnn (Aussie doing a Bruce Willis buzzer): wrong...2 marinas and 3 boat clubs on the penninsular.

    We build for local and domestic, EU and Aus/NZ and Middle East leizure/fishing boat market, Naiad Pilots, patrol boats, ferries, wind farm & harvest CATs , oil spill control etc.
    We have 22m and 30m sail yacht designs in progress that we may kick off as new builds next year for EU market.
     
  13. Landlubber
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    please provide lat long for these clubs, I looked at Google eatrh and see only commercial boat use.

    How many boats are at the marinas?
     
  14. Landlubber
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    watchkeeper,

    sounds like you have a very busy yard there mate, I genuinely are surprised that you are building so much as i worked in about 7 yards there and basically none are that busy.

    ...funny though cos back here in Brisbane , it is the alloy boats again that is where the work is currently...have fun
     

  15. watchkeeper

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    This year we delivered 4 x 14mt pilots, 6 x 15m CAT work boats (EU), 8 x 6.8mt fishing/liesure, 2 x 10.4 CAT MY, 1 x 14m CAT MY, 1 x 12mt MY and 6 builds still in progress.



    Article in todays IBINEWS


    News

    Xiamen boat show ends with 36 yacht sales

    By IBI Magazine

    Organisers of the China International Boat Show 2010 in Xiamen said that exhibitors sold 36 yachts out of the 140 boats on display. The four-day show at the Xiamen Marina on Wuyuan Bay ended November 1.

    Organisers said in a statement that total turnover at the show was RMB129m. About 50,000 people attended the show, including 135 businesses with interests in the boating industry.

    The organisers said that Wuyuan Bay International Yacht Exhibition & Sales Centre adjoining the show will also gain seven new yacht companies that will exhibit their yachts at the centre.



    (4 November 2010)
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2010
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