Cigarette Design

Hey Bankshot41
As I follow the threads, things become more interesting. My Little 19ft rig has parralell strakes and the horseshoe design that was refered to is only at the level where the deck joins the hull. In my oppinion a magic way to optimise interior room with a smallish boat.The waterline chine definitly has parallel sides and the strakes are definitely parrallel and end about 2ft from the stern which was apparently to try and reduce aeration for the propeller. I can vouch for the aeration issue as I have tried many propellers and the only one design that works with next to no cavitation issues is the old aluminium cleaver style ( long deleted by mercruiser ) which has longer blades resulting in much more grip in the water! The new stainless replacements are hard on your wallet and don't cut the mustard when it comes to the grip. If you like making milk shakes rather than powering along then any prop will do.
If you would like some photos, you can email me directly at Audiofurn@iprimus.com.au and i will organise them for you. I use my toy for towing skiers quite often and it will pull 10 at once with a 19 inch pitch cleaver and a lot less with a std prop. I had a 29 inch laser prop to play with for a while and it was like driving an automatic with a clagged torque converter. No grip until 4000 rpm. I would like to try a 35inch cleaver one day just for fun! Hope this info has been of some use.
Regards
Derk

 

Some pretty good info...

I just gave a second or was it a third look at a GlenL design for a 30+ foot deep-V. I sent for the $10 "study plans" and I think I can start with this and add ten more feet of wood, extend the stations and add where necessary. Also plan to play with the "looks" a little... maybe a sharkier bow, etc. Check it out. May help you along... just type in Glen L Marine in Google and it'll take you right to it.

 

Hello,

In trolling for information on the same subject (for the purpose of an R/C design) I came across this forum. I wanted to thank everyone for their valuable input. It will be of great help to me as well.

chris

 

Sorry for my absence...

Still getting the shop put together, everyone. Will post some info on the project soon.

 

Just for a bit of back round and I love dragging back old threads.

The entire genre of "Cigarette Boats" was essentially penned for Donzi Marine in 1965 ish by Harry Schoell, a few years later it "became" the Magnum Marine 25 which just about every deep vee offshore boat for the next 40 years can trace its lines directly to, or more accurately, was molded from.

The Donzi had a rounded bottom at the very peak to the transom which got tightened up by the time the 28 and up Cigarettes were molded.

They all (from about 28' up) had an 8' beam and 24* dead rise at the transom which even still mostly defines the genre.

 

Harry built a 29 which became the 27 Magnum the 28 Cigarette and the Larry Smith Scarab, Aronow had him do a 23 footer which Harry built a Mica Faced mold and pulled a boat that got rigged with outboards for Magoon. That was the most copied boat in existence at 24 feet.

 

I found this thread tonight and would like to drag this old thread up again.

I was told many years ago that the Larry Smith scarab was a west coast boat with less deadrise than the cigarettes. It seems both of you are saying this was wrong info. Could you give any more details or restate the correct history for those of us who are hard of hearing

 

IMP-ish,

Bankshot41 went looking at Glen-L in 2004. Haven't heard from him since 07-08-2004. What does that tell you?

However, you could research your way down and build yourself a classic.

http://www.boatdesigns.com/46-Slot-Machine-tunnel-slot-high-speed-express/products/874/

http://www.boatdesigns.com/32-Cruise-Missile-tunnel-slot-express-cruiser/products/809/

http://www.glen-l.com/designs/hankinson/buildingmahogrunabouts.html