Boat building project in Sri Lanka

Probably you have misunderstod.
I'm also works for FRP-boat and our boat allready pass the hydrostatic test, but the fisherman just looking for the boat as same as what they normaly operated.

The fishermanboat in indonesia 60% were in class range 3-5GT with outboard engine.(see attch of our hull model - if your hull almost same with us??)
For economical operation should in class 30GT, but other side if they used it that means some of them might loose the jobs.

How the subsidies look like? should the fisherman be a members of Co-operative or individu.
Most of our fisherman are not bankable, and also the boat self could not insurance (no Inssurance would cover it).
Quite complicated enought

thx

 

I am a new member from Sri lanka to this discussion. I am a mechancal engineer who has done specilisation in naval architecture for my Ph.D. in UK and presently working as a senior lecturer at University of Moratuwa. I have been producing drawings and hydrostatics calculation and inclining test for most of the boat builders. Here in sri lanka most of the boat builders are not techincally sound but who have learned from their fore farthers. However they have certain amount of sense of the shape of the hull for better performance. The quality of finish and fairing of the hull is not up to standard that because probably they may not able quantitify faring better than that. The other thing is that most of them do not make a mould from lines of a hull but copy an existing boat and then modify a bit to reflect the shape as his own version. Such modification may have sometime influenced the fairing and proper shape of the hull. Also most of boat builder do not know about influenced of the hull shape on hydrostatics particulars and KM of the hull.

When considering the FRP constructons most of the builder do not worry about gel time , humiditiy and neatness when laying mats. These are some of the inadequcies prevailing in boat yards. Although I have tried to make them aware of these problem they are not able to understand beyond a certain level because of their education.
On the other hand it is very difficult to change their mind by our advice.
Further most of the fisherman in SL looks for beamy boats so that they can catch more fish and they do not worry much about the quality of fishbecause of the price they get at the harbour. More the fish they are happy. This has made boat builder to built beamy and bulky boat that are not economical in fuel. Fishermen always try to get their boat builded at low cost without worring about quality. This also have made boat builders to limit their development and go for what the fishermen ask. I have tried to introduce refrigeration system to multi day boats and it was failed because they are not ready to spend that amount of money and would accept if the system is given on subsidy scheme.

After having undertood all these problems I have planed to commence FRP boat yard with two more partners. This planning was done before Tsunami and drawings and model have been completed months ago and at present we are in the process of building up infra-structure. I would welcome any advice and openions from expertise in this site

Thanks evey body
W.K.Wimalsiri

 

Mr. Wimaslsiri, Please check with the United Nations Food and Agriculture organization representative in your region. They will be able to help you coordinate the most cost effective approach to this need.
Please feel free to Email me at ; nan-ross@starpower.net ,if you encounter any problems.
I have been most concerned about the loss of the fishing fleet and how if can be rebuilt and new crews can be trained.
The losses that have been experienced will take a long time to replace becauce the region has lost its expertise in the fisheries.
Ross Hill
Bel Air,Maryland
USA

 

boatbuilding project

Dear Members of the forum
Yesterday I sent detail report to one of the senior member of boat building net Tsunami victims fund organizing committee ,giving our long term plan and explaining how we are going to utilize your great humanitarian assistance, extended to srilankan people ,during our difficult time.
We are proposing to help people in two ways,short term project to provide vessels and assist them to start their normal life and long term plan to help kids who lost their parents as a result of Tsunami disaster.
We were looked at this matter in every point of view and came to our conclusions in the most effective manner.Hope you may understand why we spend nearly one month to come up with our plan
I always welcome your opinions, suggestions and hope to finalize all in few dyes
Thank you for your patients and thank you for your assistance extended to us
Gamage

 

Dear all members

My previous reply to the Boat building project was to explain the reality of the situation on boat builting in srilanka with my all experience of dealing with 90% of the builder that do not apply to all boat builders in srilanka. I mentioned that most of the boat builders. At this moment our responsibility is to assist all who effected by the Tsunami. Any project that would benifit srilankan fishermen as well as fishing community in the whole world would be highly appreciated. That is why I am also trying my self to start up a boat yard and contribute to the fishing community in sri lanka. My objective is to rectify the present problems in boat building and come out with better design that would fullfils cost effective quality product.

Wimalsiri

 

boat building in maldives

i am urgently looking for a party to build fishing boats at a reasonable price. for design and further queries pls contact me

shamsheer.rilwan@gmail.com

 

Aussies downunder in support

I am putting together a network here to assist with a boat-building project. I have access to a New Zealand design that might be suitable - simple to build with hand tools, and relatively inexpensive - construction plywood and galvanised fittings. Small amount of epoxy. Around 30 were built by some Aussies for East Timor in 2002 and there has been interest in other parts of the world. It's called the Clarence River Dory and some details can be found at http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/clarenceriverdory/index.htm
I'm looking to work with an agency just recently set up here in Sydney (Australia) for the purpose of assisting in Sri Lanka. I need some support there about the sort of boats used (in the case ours might be suitable), areas in need etc.
All the best
Graham

 

Longtail boats in Thailand

Hi everyone,
I have just been put onto your forum and would like feedback on a project I am setting up here in Phuket. I have not plowed through all of the messages, but what I have read seems encouraging. I am looking at building an exact replica of a traditional timber longtail in GRP with inbuilt buoyancy and ballast. I hope to offer a safer boat to be used with the local longtail engines in the short term and create a junk-rigged sailing version with an outrigger and leeboard for tourism when it revives - my own experiences include large scale GRP work in theme parks and sailing. Also, I hope to promote more environmentally-friendly engine options as these are incorporated into the design.
I could go on at great length explaining what I am doing and the reasoning behind the ideas, but it would be easier to read the proposal I have written. To this end I would be happy to send a copy to anyone interested and gratefull for any feedback.
I posted a letter in the Bangkok Post some weeks ago and have had a lot of suggestions already, the majority of which have been positive and useful. A local boatbuilder is costing the mould and subsequent pulls so that I have some idea of funding needed.
Please send an e-mail to the address below and thanks for your time.

Dermot Doyle
empiricist@hotmail.com
Thai mob - 048416823

 

my uninformed opinion would be the yamaha pangas designed in the '70's
from 14 to 30 foot to cover different needs
they seem to be the perfect choice to me

cheers jack [a very novice boater]

 

Hi Jack,
Yes, I heard about the Yamaha boats. I understand that they offered moulds to anyone in the developing world who could prove a genuine interest. They took off well in Latin America among others, but not here. It is possible that the tsunami could be the motive power for change, but legislation here isn't enforced so illegal logging will continue to subsidise the timber boats, which they want. This is why I was looking at an exact copy to get around the natural conservative nature of the boatmen rather than a more modern design, no matter how much better developed.

Regards,

Dermot

 

Sunday Observer

Sunday, 20 February 2005

Features
Lament of the fisher folk : Ready, set.... where's the equipment? by Shanika Sriyananda W. Nimalsiri counting the days to go back to sea. Pic. by Srimath Indrajith Liyanage.
Vipula Dharme and several other fishermen stare at the sea, day in and day out, sitting by a damaged boat washed ashore by the tsunami waves. He does not know when he would go back to the sea to catch some fish. He has no boats, no fishing equipment and sees no help in the horizon. Being a fisherman for the past 30 years, he does not know any other way of earning money. And he is not alone. Many fishermen like Vipula in the Oruwadiya village in Rakawa are ready to go back to sea, though it took everything, the lives of their kith and kin, houses and their boats. Today they only own the foundation and the wooden planks of their houses. Living in tents with their toddlers, these fisher folk found shelter in the Rakawa school and the community hall, after the tsunami and have now been moved to tents. The unbearable heat seems nothing to these men who are thinking of ways and means of starting their careers anew. Wearing long sleeved shirts given by donors, they, the young and old, spend half of their day staring at the sea. The boats that survived the tsunami are said to be able to bring in only small fish like sprats, as the big nets have been damaged or washed away by the tsunami waves. The five hundred fisher families living in the Oruwadiya village owned over 103 big boats but the number has been reduced to eight after the tsunami. "We do not have boats or fishing nets to catch big fish like hurullas and balayas. All our fishing equipment have been washed away", says R.P. Sarath, who was engaged in selling lobsters. Double blow The tsunami has dealt a double blow to these fishermen, for apart from losing their livelihood as well as their property, houses and fishing equipments, they also lost the confidence people had in consuming fish. Now not only do they need fishing equipment, they also have to convince consumers that it is OK to start eating fish. "As people are still reluctant to eat fish, the price has dropped considerably. We sell the sprats at the village pola. Most villagers still do not eat fish after the tsunami as they have seen bodies laid along the beach", they claim. According to Sarath all the big nets in the houses and the small nets in their fishing huts (waadi) have been washed away and the remaining equipment is not enough to help them get on their feet. It is nearly two months since the tsunami occurred, but the wrecked sites remain with piles of uncleared rubble. The lives of the fisher folks too is full of desperation and uncertainty. "Government officials do little for us", they claim, adding that they are sick of filling forms given by the officers. Now depending on the government rations - 2 kilos of rice, one kilo of dhal and sugar each, the only alternative they have is to go back to sea. "We do not want to depend on the government. We want to earn a living", is the constant cry of these displaced persons. "If the NGOs did not help us we would die of starvation", says N.S. Thilakaratne. "We do not want any government relief. What we want is help to repair our boat engines. We want some new boats", are the common sentiments echoed by every fishermen not only in Oruwadiya but in all the areas of the coastline. According to these fisher folk, some boats have been repaired by Ceynor Foundation and several government officials have visited the area in air conditioned vehicles 'noted' down details of the damaged boats and the plight of these helpless fisher folk. "They visited us is true but nothing has been done to solve our problem. Even after nearly two months of the tsunami we are still filling forms and narrating horror filled incidences to the officials", they claim. They also claim that politicians who 'grabbed' their votes giving 'rosy' promises had come to 'see' them, but nothing has really been done to restore their lives to normalcy. " Politicians wearing blue, red, green and yellow came to see us. They listened to our grievances and gave us promises. But that was it", they claim. Vipula complains of further deterioration to their damaged engines as a result of keeping them unattended. " We do not have money to repair these boats. If the authority can repair these engines we can use these to go back to sea or else corrosion will soon set in due to the sea breeze", he says. The fishing villages in Modarawatta and Balapitiya have also been completely washed away. Seated in his tiny house, damaged and about to collapse, W. Nimalsiri says that the tsunami had destroyed the livelihood of the entire village, which had nearly 80 fishing crafts. "Today it has been reduced to five. We are absolutely helpless and depend solely on others. We have no way of earning a living nor can we think of a life", Nimalsiri, a father of five school going children complains. "Nearly two months have passed. We want to go back to the sea", he says. Some earned thousands a day before the tsunami. But today they depend on meagre daily earnings of Rs. 100 thanks to those who own undamaged boats. They share the daily catch with those who lost their boats and sell the stock at the village pola. "But selling is no easy task. If the government donates some boats it will be of much help", Nimalsiri says. The procedure Fisheries and Ocean Resources Ministry Secretary, N. Bambarawanage when contacted by the Sunday Observer claimed that the Ministry could not perform miracles to revamp the fisheries industry, which suffered heavy damage as a result of the tsunami, as the Ministry solely depends on allocations from the Treasury and the assistance of world donor agencies. According to Bambarawanage, the governments of Greece, Netherlands, Germany, United Kingdom, Denmark, Norway, Korea and Italy have pledged their assistance to give new traditional crafts, while Korea and UK have agreed to send their used multi-day vessels to Sri Lanka. The country lost 194 traditional vessels while over 399 multi-day vessels, which need over 5,000 litres of diesel and high refrigerator facilities to spend one month in the sea, were partly destroyed by the tsunami waves. A total of 15,754 fishing vessels were completely damaged. The Chinese government had recently signed an MoU with the Treasury to re-build damaged fishing harbours, while the Italian government signed an MOU with the Fisheries Minister to supply boats and other fishing gear to the tsunami hit areas. "All activities of repairing and supplying boats and other equipment is now co-ordinated by the Ceynor Foundation Ltd (CFL) and all donations of new boats and fishing gear have to go through the CFL. The donors have to get registered with the CFL prior to the donation. Then the CFL will distribute the donation according to its assessment on the number of boats, the type of boats and fishing gear that each area need", he said. According to Bambarawanage, the Ministry has taken this decision as fish resources along the coastal belt is said to be depleting, due to over harvesting. The problem is further compounded by industrial pollutants, coral mining, adhoc construction of hotels and encroachment on the coastal belt. "Donating too many fishing crafts will aggravate the fish scarcity in the coastal belt", he said adding that the Ministry would replace all types of lost and damaged boats. Bambarawanage said that the Ministry needs further allocation from the FAO and the donor countries to supply fishing gear. "We know the plight of fisher folk but we need time to give new boats, repair the damaged boats and supply equipment. This will take a couple of months to bring the industry back to normal", he said.

 

Dear Members,
I am going to sign M,o.U with Cey Nor Foundation to commence production of fishing boat 30' (inboard engine) and canoes in the southern province of Sri Lanka.As a bigining I would like to know whether members of forum willing to share their cooperation with me. If so, in which form I can expect it. Inorder to incooperate everything together I appreciate your response to this matter in advance
Gamage

 

Yamaha Boat

Here in Indonesia/ Surabaya have allready made stick-and-glue cannoe-boat.
The total cost only 2,5milion rupiahs/260 USD, lenght x width 4,6 x0,6 m.

The other design from FAO laminated boat were teribble, because they made very simply hulls/ flatt bottom , it was also used in Suamtra latter days before Tsunami.

Since the yamaha kattumaran model is look like traditional canoe, i would preffering you to see the model from http://mahasagarboats.com/canoes.htm it looks like quite durabel and simply in design.[they made in single skin methode and without frame/bulkhead)
You just put extra outrigger and it would be the real workhorse for your fisherman.

Happy surfing

 

Indonesia Calling

We think that the concept of boat building Aid is one with great merit ! I have read several proposals that address this problem of lost livelihood on the part of most of the coastal comunities in the region. Many suggest that providing boats and engines, the way to go. The question that seems to be unanswered is that of "what design" and "how fast" can you make them. We feel the answer to this question is kit based constuction.

Which leads us to the matter of where to assemble and "our" project enters the picture.

Our project is a 64m cargo ship, scheduled to depart for her first month in the region of North Sumatra. hppt://www.songlinecruises.com/wre.php

We feel that by loading our vessel with the necessary kit material and the appropriate carpentry equipment, the assembly can be done at anchor on site and operate as a fabrication training facility. This concept will provide needed jobs, interactive design and construction training to the local communities, that can have long term benefits for the local fisherman.

We are interested in seeing a project of this type come to fruission and we feel our vessel KLM Maruta Jaya 900 is the perfect platform for its implementation.

If you know of any interested parties, please feel free to contact me !

Robin Engel

 

Boat Construction Platform

http://www.songlinecruises.com/wre.php

also see my tread post of today !

Robin Engel
Jakarta