What Do We Think About Climate Change

Now you're being silly again. I'm not 'proposing big government solution.' How you even managed to get that out of what I said is beyond me.

I'm advancing the proposition that it's legitimate for the government to act as a referee. It's a reasonable function of government to keep businesses honest, and stop them from screwing their customers and the competition.

A referee is there to stop below-the-belt blows, and kicks to the head when an opponent goes down. He isn't the 'solution' to the fight; he doesn't step into the ring and say, "OK. You're going to win this one, and he's going to lose. Now shake hands, go to your corners and come out swinging.'

 

I see Boston the Weasel is still up to his old tricks. I guess lockstep has been redefined seeing as how 200-800 years have lapsed between temp increase and C02 increase. But that's our boy Boston the Weasel, never let facts get in the way of dogma, like the ******** consensus he still tries to convince folks of. I can just see his mom with her friends, showing his picture, and saying, "Yup, that's a ma boy, Boston the Weasel"

 

C'mon Boston!

You do not like the 12 years thing neither the 160 years one! Which one do you like? I'll fix to whatever period you choose for which we can use publicly checkable instrumental data, I promise.

Just answer the questions! It's easy even for you!

Otherwise it will be evident your total inability to keep a minimally clever debate on these matters and an implicit confession that your only interest here is just doing blind proselitism for your Climatic Church of the Warmnotology.

 

Alan, my darling, where are you?

When you avoid that your patronizing attitude of thinking everyone here but you is an stupid with no knowledge, you are at this moment the only person from the AGW camp here whith whom to keep an interesting and creative debate. Trying to cleverly debate with the Clowny Duetto is totally impossible and unfruitful (although I have to recognize I have some affection to Boston's scatterbrained idiotice. He is a nice guy, after all ).

Please don't hide yourself and pop up with something interesting!

...or then, have you realized already perhaps you may not be as sure as you thought you were about anthropogenic CO2 being a first order climate forcing? Perhaps your scientific brain is already seeing an small and annoying light of doubt?

 

By the way Boston, have you swallowed already the fact that Mann uses the HadCRUT3v as instrumental data source for his 2008 work? How did you like it?

 

Have you also swallowed it, Alan?

 

::thumbsup::

 

Thanks. Too bad the challenged ones don't get it. The useful idiots will become redundant once they have served their purpose, arsenal or no arsenal.

 

so it must be cow farts

 

that would depend on how honest the government is and if kickbacks bribes or campaign contributions have undue influence on the process

which we all know they aren't and we all know they do

issue is you cant legislate fairness and in the end no system is without corruption, trick being to quickly move away from a system of corporate oligarchy like we have now and on to a more rational form of governance that more fairly represents the individual.

probably never going to happen in my lifetime but still

its a nice idea

 

I applaud all the people on this thread who continue to give the good fight regardless of the side they are on as long as they maintain a healthy amount of skepticism, aren't swayed by the religiosity or dogmatism of their position, and have some rational clear minded basis for their position.

Similarly I curse those on the other side.

I have no interest in religious conversion. I don't have the tools or patience for that.

 

no system can be made permanently perfect

all that can be done is past problems corrected until someone figures out how to game the new system then correct for that , it will always be a game of catch up

 

You speak of correcting past problems; or would you rather just compound them? Laughable crap.

 

so no law should have been passed after Hammurabi?

laughable crap

 

So many weasels.