The perfect Passagemaker? (style within this genre)

Nice goodwill.........but we are neither talking Bolger nor Buehler designs here. Do you understand that?

That is nonsense Mate. Some of the shown designs are extremely economical to operate. Especially when one puts the mentioned Grenaa Diesel and the (included) CPP in!
And again, thats not the topic.

Is it so hard to grasp that I asked for the preferred styling of a boat around 24 meter? A motoryacht, capable of circumnavigating........................
...no sailing cats, no earthmovers, no electric scooters are the topic here.

I handled boats up to 42 meter with one deckhand (single prop, no thruster), but there was a third person on board..... ??why?...
The old ship had a engine telegraph! No direct control, no gear, no throttle at the wheel. You can imagine what that means.............


Marina fees are a zero issue on a true passagemaker! You very rarely dock at a marina. (and very rarely find one)
On my 9 year voyage we docked for less than 50 nights in a marina.

Regards
Richard

 

....it also means Apex that you only get 8 starts, and with no gearbox, we have to be careful in manouveres......my ol' 160 footer was the same.

 

About that, yes.

Once you have managed these old monsters with the common 20 seconds delay on response, you know how to maneuvre or you will never learn.
And 8 starts are a good average... we had a tug with only 4 before air was empty. Nobody ever understood why just a tug had such a idiotic restriction, but, you know: hit shappens........

But we are slightly off topic again........................

 

Another set of positions that are not connected to the topic. Please can you gentlemen stay within the issues as presented? It is bothersome to me that you have this way about what you do.

 

Right, thank you!

May I repeat for the hundredth time?

What is your opinion about the styling of a passagemaking motoryacht of about 24 meter length overall.
The poll provides 8 different choices by now. The second proposal that I would accept as such is still not there!

Regards
Richard

 

As for a yacht manned by two persons, I like the pilot house just slightly raised.
And I really enjoy the English style.
Her a Samuel White built, Parker designed.
Some sort of continuation of C. Nicholson 70' motor yacht of pre WW2
Simple and elegant In my eyes, almost perfect in her restrain and beautifuly designed superstructures.

Daniel

 

Daniel, I think you're on to something there. I like the overall proportions of that one and the general style. I'd prefer a continuous sheer- IMHO a break in the sheer should be at or forward of the wheelhouse, not behind it. The add-ons above the aft deck look perhaps just a bit too cluttered. But overall, it's nicely proportioned and the looks fit the part- sleek but strong, not built too high, balanced fore/aft.

 

Sure windows are a main concern (not for the Nordhavn manufacturers) and we have to consider the hughe weight in making them as stable and rugged as the main superstructure. But that is one of the reasons I did not ask for the "dock queens" (well, with one excemption), when I started this poll.

A well designed 19mm three layer glass in a perfect embedding is as rugged as a 8mm steel structure. (perfect embedding is the secret, of course).

But then we are again off topic............

Which one looks nicest?

Thats all I want to know..........

All my best
Richard

Thanks Daniel,

that I would consider to be the second proposal?

And White did a far better job than Fairmile (fishboatbuilders).

As I was starting this thread I did not think so many of our members would appreciate the old style.
I am proud to see that your rough sketch (competing with more sophisticated drawings or pictures) has by so far at least not lost the competition, the third place in a environment of other, really skilled pro´s is a good place.

So,
we have a second proposal

 

....."Why do you go as such?".....

someone has posted this to me personally.......it is regarding this section, but please let me know what it is that you are trying to say...I have NO IDEA.

...why cannot you say who you are, it is vey hard to try to stay on track with some people....

 

All of the vessels presented are nice , but they will differ markedly in their abilities.

How much sea worthnes do you desire?

St Thomas in the winter or Cape Horn?

FF

 

The North Sea Fred. As rough as the Hoorn sometimes.

But as I mentioned in the opening post, let us assume they perform similar, just to focus on styling only.

Regards
Richard

And thanks Jeff for cleaning and reorganizing the thread! It is better to understand now.

 

In a passage maker, form (in my opinion) completely follows function and in that regard nothing can surpass the safety, visibility, and functionality of a supply vessel.


Who wouldn't feel like a king up on that Bridge (not a pilot house anymore) pacing back and forth between the enclosed bridge wings with visibility all around?

 

So you would opt for...............???

 

kc,
I would'nt feel like a king up there but I'd I'd sure be worried about the next beam sea. Nobody'd be sittin down and everybody'd be holdin on. The bridge looks like 6 decks above the WL!
AND passagemakers are yachts and form follows function to the tune of this thread on all yachts.

Easy Rider

 

Whilst I admire the elegant yachts of bygone era's as much as the next bloke, I have to say the you guy's are rather too conservative for my tastes.
Is there not a contemporary looking craft that any of you likes?

She's a touch too large to be considered here, at 34 metres long, but VvS1 rather takes my fancy. Proof that a serious passagemaker doesn't have to resemble either a tug or a paddle-steamer...
http://www.yachtvvs1.com/index.html