Origami steel yacht construction

Discussion in 'Metal Boat Building' started by origamiboats, Nov 30, 2001.

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  1. troy2000
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    Brent, if you can't manage to do the quote and unquote thing properly, how about just hitting the 'quote' button under someone's post, then typing your answer below the quote?

    It's almost impossible to make sense of some of your posts, the way you've commingled your words, the words of the person you're quoting, and the words of the person he's quoting....
     
  2. Brent Swain
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    I've been doing that all along. Lately, it doesn't respond the way it used to on this site. Works well on other sites.
     
  3. Brent Swain
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    Mike Johns?
    Remember, this is the same Mike Johns who said a mylar ruler, held in the hands, acts the same way structurally, as a longitudinal, contained in a steel hull, and welded to the hull!
    Remember, this is the same Mike Johns, who said that boats which have cruised for up to 30 years in all weathers, with zero structural problems , will , according to his calculations, break up in four hours!
    This is the same Mike Johns who said he considers four hours "Eventually" or the 5 seconds it takes for 1,000 cycles of engine vibrations "Eventually"
    This is the same Mike Johns who said anyone who builds a boat without transverse frames, including Van de Stadt, Dudley Dix, Wynand, etc. are all irresponsible scam artists.

    And he says I have credibility problems ? Ya right!
     
  4. Brent Swain
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    Wynand
    You , being in South Africa are at the crossroads of circumnavigators, who have crossed one of the roughest stretches of water in the world.
    While metal failures of huge tankers, who's structural strength is marginal, due to their huge size and weight, are common, could you tell us how many weld failures you have seen on steel yachts 40ft and under. In nearly 40 years of cruising, I have yet to see any serious weld failures on small steel yachts. They are so grossly over strength, compared to boats built out of any other material, that they are virtually non existent. It just doesn't happen, despite the huge number of builders, of varying welding skills, who have built them.
     
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  6. Brent Swain
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    I don't do the welding. Go back and read my posts, before commenting on them.
    Like Wiley , you don't bother to read, just plug your ears and spout off . Like Wiley you don't allow info in, just spout out your uninformed, cast in stone version of it..
    Your problem is not with origami boat building. Your problem is the time I criticized Israel. Since then you will disagree with anything I say, regardless.
     
  7. LyndonJ
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    Credibility:p

    This is typical of your credibility. :!:

    It was all carefully and patiently explained to you in detail that none of that was true and you were being dishonest by subverting other facts and making another big lie . You really are pathetic doing that sort of distortion. You need to do this to deflect what exactly ? That you are ignorant by choice perhaps?

    It's not spin anymore since it was addressed, now it's just dishonesty.

    So here's the charge, you are acting dishonestly... again.

    Like to prove me wrong, you could use the quote button since all those posts are in this thread.

    This compounds with the apparent fraud in your stability claims. You just make up whatever you need to and whether it's right or wrong is no concern.

    Every post like that just hangs you higher.
     
  8. TomThumb28
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    Put the text you want to quote between these tags like so (remove the *). Upper or lower case doesn't matter.

    [QUOTE*]frames are stupid[/QUOTE*]

    it should look like

    If you wan't the screen name of the person you are quoting to show up add it in the first tag like so.

    [*QUOTE=Brent Swain]frames are stupid[/QUOTE*]

    which shows up like

    I usually just copy and paste the lead tag and type out the [/quote] as I'm laying out my post. Another option on this board is to highlight text and click on the # icon on the control panel which will put tags around it.
     
  9. junk2lee
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    By request,Brents Boat

    Brent march20 07.JPG
     

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  10. pdwiley
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    Actually it would be more correct to say that I no longer bother reading your posts if they're more than a couple of lines. When (and if) you learn to quote properly I may bother, but then again maybe not.

    I'm an amateur boat builder. I do things to suit myself within the limits laid down by the hull designer, expert advice and my own prior knowledge. I don't know everything and I don't pretend to. I read to learn and cross-check information against multiple sources where possible. That's how I was trained and I was quite successful in my careers.

    The reason you're not worth reading is that you never have anything new to say. Same crap repeated over & over again. Mis-quotes galore. Straw man arguments. Grandiose claims you can't back up. Cross checks show that what you say is at best partially true, at worst a complete lie. It's not that I don't read, it's that you don't have anything verifiable to say! Sorry but I had my dose of religion when I was young and all you're offering is religion not engineering.

    The Brent creed - "I am the way, the truth and the light. Build boats my way and thou shalt survive undamaged groundings in 10' surf and coral reefs, collisions with barges, be able to crush ice with a single blow and sail the fair breezes forever after 4 weeks labour".

    I do have a good nose for ******** and you're so full of it I'd bet you had brown eyes. If this was Usenet I'd write a Brentbot that could make postings indistinguishable from yours.

    Ah well, I've had my caffeine fix here in my house on the waterfront (that I own & built), time to head off to the barn (that I own & built) and play boat-builder.

    PDW
     
  11. junk2lee
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    Just to add,the Control Panel and # icon is only seen when you Go Advanced per my mozilla browser.. I'm going to try this!
     
  12. larry larisky

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    "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins, in the chapter "Tread softly, because you tread on my memes", discusses memes and uses an origami Chinese junk basically unchanged over 70 plus years as an example. The Oxford English Dictionary defines meme as an element of a culture or a system of behaviour passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means.
     
  13. junk2lee
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    Memes..

    Why do you think he picked a junk?He's a Racist! Want to fight?haha I mean,why not a square-rig,being at least as valid.
    Where's the meme?thesingle keeled hull?nope-gone to twins...the triangle rig maybe?hmmm.
     
  14. TomThumb28
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    It's pretty hard to tell actually. :D
     

  15. troy2000
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    Typical. You missed by a mile with that one. Your posts regarding Israel have nothing to do with this thread; I had to stop and think for a while before I figured out, "oh yeah...this is the same weenie who was full of crap about the so-called 'aid flotilla." Now that you've brought it to my attention, I recognize the style: belligerent and abrasive, long on hysterical emotion and short on facts.

    Unfortunately for you, I do read. I know what ******** smells like, and I can spot a narcissistic con man a mile away.

    On the other hand, you obviously don't read. Or you'd have noticed that I've never bashed origami boatbuilding as such. In fact, I've stated two or three times here that in the range you normally design for, your boats probably work just fine.

    No, my problem with this thread is your utter contempt for craftsmanship, skill, knowledge and education--i.e., your claims that professionals doing their jobs properly are engaging in some sort of thievery and con game. Not to mention your smug belief that you're more intelligent than people who work for a living, instead of selling BS....

    It's one thing to be a junkyard welder, as you obviously are; not everyone can be a pro. But that's no excuse for trying to tear down those who know what they're doing.

    Nice try, BS. But you aren't going to get rid of me simply by punting me off into the worldwide Zionist conspiracy....save your ravings about the evil, bloodthirsty Jews for some other thread.:p:p:p
     
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