My new baby! 6.8 Meter fiber over wood fishing boat !

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Vulkyn, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. Vulkyn
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    Vulkyn Senior Member

    I'm gona test the epoxy anyways !

    Yah west systems its a typo ... and why on earth would i know a lesbian fashion designer ?? :p
     
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    Hähh, and why not?

    One cannot have too many encounters, not too much experience, never too much contacts, but easily the wrong ones.:D

    Test the materials, that will give you the confidence I do not need.
    But it is easier to rely on systems you are familiar with since ages, than to rely on a very flimsy, never seen structure in a strange environment.
    I understand...

    Regards
    Richard
     
  3. Vulkyn
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    errrr .... Lesbian fashion is not one of my currently ongoing interests! However should i decide to pursue the matter i know how have a good starting point !!!

    very true!!

    Not only for myself tbh but the yard is also very skeptical so a trial will also give them the confidence i need when they are working on my boat ! :D :D :D
     
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    As an added safety i want to fit a bilge pump. I want to make sure that i have space for it. Any ideas on how i should proceed ?
     
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    Didnt find instruction regarding bilge pump .... ill keep lookin :)
     
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    Don´t bother with that bilge pump. It will be where it belongs (in the bilge) and there will be some drainage holes in the frames.
     
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    That does not exist in any of the designs or builds i have seen. So i have to tell them to actually do it (in my father inlaws boat then mine when i start).

    Hence i was asking as they dont automatically do it.
     
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    Yes,

    I pointed towards Pascoe here a several times. Go on reading his rants about GRP and foam cores!

    Though really not the "bible" , it is a eye opening reading.

    Richard
     
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    epoxy

    Hi, I am a noob also. I consider all the trash talking you've been getting to apply to me too!!:eek:

    So, I've been doing research on all the new info we have been getting.
    Found this on http://www.dixdesign.com/FAQwood.htm

    Must I coat my hull with epoxy or can I use polyester resin?

    Epoxy resin for hull coatings is called "low viscosity 100% solids epoxy". This means that it is liquid enough to penetrate well into the surface of timber but has no solvent in it to give it the low viscosity. Solvents have to evaporate off during the curing process and, where solvents go out, microscopic pores are left which allow moisture to go in. Polyester resin is much more porous than 100% solids epoxy.

    Evaporation of solvents results also in reduced material volume, ie shrinkage. Polyester resin has lower bond strength to timber than epoxy has, due in part to the shrinkage of the resin as it cures. This leaves the polyester resin with reduced peel strength, particularly if in combination with glass reinforcement because the increased thickness aggravates the shrinkage.

    For the purposes of stitch & glass (tape & glass) jointing of plywood panels, the adhesion of polyester resin can be improved by applying a coat of resin thinned with styrene monomer or acetone to the bond area prior to making the joint.
     
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    Where have you seen trash talking here?

    And leave the ...esther resins where they belong, in mass production.

    Richard
     
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    Hi Richard,
    For trash talking I was just referring to the ribbing Vulkyn has gotten over some of his comments in this thread. I've really enjoyed this thread and am learning a lot:)

    I am a noob and saw comments about staying away from Polyester resin in favor of epoxy. I wondered "Why?". So when I came across this explanation I had an "Eureka!!!" moment.

    I am sure I'll have many more of them. Please continue without my presence and I will go back to lurking.:D
     
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    I did not want to scare you off, was just wondering about the "trash talking".

    Regards
    Richard
     

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    hehe glad this thread is helping others !!!

    Dont mate !! your input is well always welcome ...

    Us "noobs" must stick together !!! :D :D

    On a side note, a friend of mine is a chemical engineer. He was explaining to me that epoxy reacts chemically performing a much stronger bond (deeper penetration :D :D :D )

    I am actually gona pay him a visit ... might learn a thing or two !!

    Thx for the link pedalingbiped !! its a good read! Always good to find links for nooby's !
     
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