Naval architects and designers are a waste of money!

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  1. welder/fitter
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    I've been watching that story unfold, with great interest. Though I thought that they were foolish from the beginning, I couldn't help but pity them a little, after viewing the launch attempt. When they began that sponson addition, my pity went out the window. My uneducated guess would be that they will spend as much $ on the additions as it would have cost them to have bought a used vessel of suitable size and refit & refurbish it, using the equipment that they have installed in their monstrosity. Regardless of how the sponsons work out - doubtful? - that will definitely be one of the ugliest boats ever built. As some have mentioned, it is like watching an accident; morbid curiosity will hold my attention. :eek: :) :eek: :) :eek:
     
  2. alidesigner
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    Good to see the skills of using wooden templates isnt dead... LOL

    If they ever get it going the vibration from the flat bar on the stern gear will be their next disaster - that's if those tiny props get more than 5 knots out of it.

    Hillarious!!!!
     
  3. daiquiri
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    On the other hand, this floating thing has left the french St. Nazaire shipyard few days ago:

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    and I guess many literate NA's and interior/exterior designers have worked hard to arrive to this... result. :rolleyes:
    Don't know, you tell me...

    To me it looks like the ugliest cruise ship ever constructed. Something like the bow section was too buoyant, so they just had to add something, anything, up there to push it back in the water. :eek:
     
  4. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    How far can that boat heel before capsizing :eek:
     
  5. Joe Petrich
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    Joe Petrich Designer

    Cruise ships have evolved from sleek, fast ocean liners to blocky hotel + shopping mall haulers. Sadly it's all about maximum volume for acccomodations and entertainment now.
     
  6. Lurvio
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    Lurvio Mad scientist

    Hey guys, I tried to find out what all this commotion is about, can someone enlighten me and maybe others who've been here less time. The (original) thread that's linked in the poll-thread in woodenboatforum seems to be removed.

    Lurvio
     
  7. djwkd
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    +1 to the above.
     
  8. SheetWise
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    SheetWise All Beach -- No Water.

    If you can keep it stable and move the hull efficiently -- I don't see anything wrong with more room. These monsters are, after all, cruising.
     
  9. daiquiri
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    The original link pointed to an old and very popular thread at Woodenboats forum, which apparently has been deleted.

    It was showing a big, boxy, Klingon-style steel boat, made by people with no aesthetical sense and no understanding of boat design, but with software... They thought that cheap software and money is all that was needed. They had invested their whole fortune in it, one guy has divorced from his wife because of it, and at the moment of putting it in the water, the thing didn't even want to float... Too heavy. So they had to invest more money for some incredibly ugly floats attached to the hull, in order to get some buoyancy, making the whole stuff even more bad-looking. :D

    Most probably the thread was cancelled because the thread starter has realized that he might get sued should the boat "designers" discover that the whole forum was laughing at them. :rolleyes:
    However, Google has cached this image, which is pretty significant. This was the first launch attempt, before the additional floats were welded to the hull. You can see the transom slowly going down, and down... :D

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    A friend in the Ferryboat shipping market once said: "a ferryboat is a gambling hall with a shopping mall and bars, adjacent to some minimalistic bedrooms. We have, by accident, to build a ship around and transport something from "A" to "B" to get it licensed, but the ship is a burden"

    The "designers" of that ugly junk must have been as stoned or drunk as the guys ordering such a vessel.

    Hopefully they go bancrupt with this one.

    The cruise liner passenger is a demanding creature, and likes to identifiy himself with "his" ship. I doubt that will be the case here.

    Regards
    Richard
     
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    if you paste Naval architects and designers are a waste of money into google and click cache on the first listing you will get more pics.
     
  12. HakimKlunker
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    HakimKlunker Andreas der Juengere

    Too bad that we are too cautious to mention names.
    I have a feeling that I know the guy in question.
     
  13. Manie B
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    these tower blocks make me VERY VERY uncomfortable

    my whole body screams TOPHEAVY
    my brain says good designer and engineers dont worry ?????

    sorry I have to go now to change my nappy :D

    my wife will NEVER see such a cruise (because we will have to pack more nappies) :p

    strange hey, I go to the indian ocean on a 20ft mono smiling from ear to ear in my 7th heaven and when back in harbour sailing past the tower blocks out comes the nappies :p
     
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  14. Ilan Voyager
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    I agree heartily with you. More ugly, it's very hard. Maybe the new french BPC (command boat) Mistral is a serious contender. I'm too old for all that ship. Happily I'm retired now.
     

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  15. Lurvio
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    Lurvio Mad scientist

    I've scanned through the (Google-cached) original thread and I can only shake my head. Oh well, their money.

    L
     
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