What Do We Think About Climate Change

Warmist supporters' arguments remind me of vegetarians and those scatterbrain who don't vaccinate their children.
Their semi religious spin of lies and poor assumptions is very similar in deed.

 

http://times-news.com/local/x1897230134/Florida-freeze-taking-bite-out-of-local-tomato-supply

 

Thanks for the daily produce report Hoyt.

 

http://www.jvas.org/ibasites/real_cost_of_wind_power.pdf

7.0 CONCLUSIONS
In his study, White concludes:
Price increases for electricity cause a domino effect in the rest of the economy.
There are cheaper and more certain methods of reducing CO2 emissions and it is
almost certainly wiser to place more reliance upon those, and less upon wind. A
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greater reduction in CO2 could be achieved by building CCGT at much lower cost.
As natural gas prices rise, it will be economic to convert coal into gas and burn the
fuel in systems equipped with CO2 capture.
20% 25% 30% 35%
The focus on wind power for new generating capacity is likely to lead to the
retention of old, low-efficiency, coal-fired plant for an extended period because
market forces hold prices at a level that discourages new investment.
It seems reasonable to ask why wind-power is the beneficiary of
such extensive support if it not only fails to achieve the CO2 reductions
required, but also causes cost increases in backup, maintenance and
transmission, while at the same time discouraging investment in clean, firm
[always available] generation capacity.
“An extremely important part of the Ontario Auditor General's mandate is the value-formoney
component. Value-for-money audits are assessments of whether or not money was
spent with due regard for economy and efficiency and whether appropriate procedures were
in place to measure and report on the effectiveness of government programs. Under the
Auditor General Act, the Office is required to report to the Legislature significant instances
where it is observed that the government is not fulfilling its responsibilities in these areas.” 30
As the public increasingly learns the real costs of wind turbine development, publicly
subsidized industrial wind power projects are rapidly becoming unacceptable. Many
Ontarians now believe that public support of industrial wind turbine development
and premium prices paid for wind energy by the Ontario Government are not money
spent with due regard for economy and efficiency. We believe that it is imperative
that Auditor General’s Office investigate this wasteful investment of public funds and
that Ontario’s Legislature place an immediate moratorium on the building of new
wind turbine facilities in the province as well as end subsidies and tax incentives
paid to the wind industry.
We also believe that the Ontario Government must immediately put into place an
effective constraint planning law requiring all provincial wind installations to avoid a
five mile area around local conservation areas, ANSIs, tourism areas, migratory bird
stopovers, towns and villages and be kept at least 1800 metres from inhabited human
dwellings.
Jon Boone wrote:31
The history of environmentalism chronicles the effort to restrain corporate excess
and mitigate the unintended consequences of uninformed decisions wrought by
wishful thinking. The public and its political representatives should take the time to
learn about the wind industry in this context
Above all, none should continue to drink from the well of wishful thinking.
Industrial scaled wind complexes . . . offer no real response to the threat of global
warming and only token gestures for improving air quality. A much more meaningful
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action would redirect the substantial tax subsides available for wind energy to fund
conservation and efficiency incentives, for these would have a far greater impact in
reducing the effects of fossil fuel combustion and toxic emissions responsible for
endangering the world.
Robert M. MacIntosh, past president of the Canadian Bankers Association, said in
'Overblown Wind', in the Financial Post 10/21/05: “It's time for reality to replace
ideology in energy policy”.
DOCUMENTS CITED:
David White: Reduction in Carbon Dioxide Emissions: Estimating the Potential Contribution from Wind-Power,
commissioned and published by the Renewable Energy Foundation, December 2004:
www.windaction.org/documents/225 .
Tom Adams: Review of Wind Power Results in Ontario: May to October 2006 published in Energy Probe, November
15, 2006: www.energyprobe.org/energyprobe/articles/EPreviewofwindpowerresults.pdf.
E.ON Netz GmbH Wind Report, 2004: www.ref.org.uk/pages/press/061004.html...REPORT.
E.ON Netz GmbH Wind Report, 2005: www.ref.org.uk/images/pdfs/eon.2005.REF.pdf. These reports provide
the most comprehensive summary of the way in which extensive wind facilities affect grid operations in
Germany.
National Research Council of the National Academy of Science, at the behest of Congress, published its
conclusions after a year of study about the Environmental Effects of Wind Energy Projects in the nation’s Mid-Atlantic
region (www.vawind.org/Assets/NRC/NRC_Wind.htm).
Jon Boone: The Wayward Wind (www.stopillwind.org/lowerlevel.php?content=WaywardWind), a speech
delivered in June, 2006 to the citizens of Wyoming County, New York.
Glenn Schleede: 2 Wind Industry False Claims about Grid Impact 0806.pdf (126.6 kB)
Top Ten False and Misleading Claims the Wind Industry Makes for Projects in the Eastern United States:
www.stopillwind.org/lowerlevel.php?content=topten_intro. Detailed debunking follows.
ENDNOTES
1 David White, BSc, C Eng, F I Chem E is an energy consultant, and has held a range of senior management
posts with Esso Petroleum Co. and the Exxon Group over a 30 year period. He spent the first 10 years in plant

 

Grow tomato in winter using "Solar Energy" woohoo "SOLAR" !!!

http://ezinearticles.com/?Have-Fun-Growing-Winter-Tomatoes&id=4457427

 

http://thepacker.com/One-third-of-F...spx?oid=975511&aid=683&fid=PACKER-TOP-STORIES

 

Wind power is not benign.: http://www.wind-energy-the-facts.or.../impacts-on-marine-mammals-and-sea-birds.html

 

http://www.biodiversityinfo.org/casestudy.php?r=pressure&id=273

 

For our friends in Florida who lost their tomato crop, use the variety grown in Alaska, the Syberian Tomato
http://www.reimerseeds.com/siberian-tomato.aspx

The cold snap in Florida is because of human induced global warming. All those pesky diesel boats and 2 stroke lawmowers you know?
Global warming is also responsible for falling attendance in Catholic Churches and flea dermatitis in cats.

 

Ah yes. Because people who believe mainstream scientists and mainstream scientific theories instead of internet conspiracy bloggers and posters are obviously the ones who are brainwashed or brain-dead....

 

I'll find it, I promise. The quick start peak plants unsubsidized cost is from the cost of northeast ng plants in areas of deregulation like Connecticut.

Back to wind being a primary supplier. It is a bit player in the energy industry even in the areas of it's highest % of the total at a cost in acreage and wildlife and fauna devastation that is immeasurable. In countries with a static population who don't like birds and are hard of hearing I guess wind power is a viable option for novelty power supply. If you take all of Europes wind power you would not be able to supply New York city with reliable, affordable electricity. It will because of its inherent limitations remain a bit player. I am not opposed to it as a supplemental source for non-essential, transient power. But I don't want to pay a subsidy to wind farms through my taxes just to make others feel good about their efforts for the environment. If you want to really reduce C02 production, it will only happen with replacement of fossil fuel plants with nuclear and converting oil heated homes over to electric heat from those nuclear plants. Otherwise you are going to have to burn something to produce heat and electricity.

 

Want another way to hurt wildlife? Here it is.: http://www.reuk.co.uk/Severn-Barrage-Tidal-Power.htm

 

The use of a conspiracy label for the skeptics view of a clearly fraudulently exaggerated claim of CO2 effect on climate, ocean height, and any other possible inconvenience on earth, attempts to appeal to prejudice, yet it is far too late. The motivations behind the massive campaign of dis information and hidden agenda of the warmers is so widespread and common knowledge now that no amount of conspiracy labeling will change that. As usual with such widespread and powerful campaigns it will take the believers decades to catch up and we will have to endure claims that this or that is "good for the planet" for decades to come. Eventually it will fade out, probably when a new source of energy is found. We will probably never have the benefit of an apology or a mea culpa or even an admission of being wrong by any of the warmist scientist let alone politicians who have squandered trillions in the pursuit of the green vote.
Greens started as a cute movement of hippies growing their own pot, but is now an ugly plague that must be placed where it belongs. In an asylum for the insane and clearly not in any parliament of this planet.

 

These aren't the numbers I was looking for but they will do, the whole report is interesting..........

http://www.iea.org/Textbase/npsum/ElecCost2010SUM.pdf

 

http://www.naturalgas.org/environment/naturalgas.asp