What Do We Think About Climate Change

Rapid change? acceleration? again the same old nonsense
We can only find acceleration if we cherrypick the interval as the GWA do.
What if we cherrypick data going back to only 2000? Wouldn't that be unacceptable too?

It would be nice if we could get a little bit of more rigor over here, but I'm afraid it's too much to ask for to some unable to think with logic but arrogant members of the Church of the Warmnotology in this thread.

 

The Progressives . Shall I design you jerseys so you don't even need to open your bongholes? Your stance on everything is known as soon as you speak. I propose to save you the trouble!

 

Speaking of cherry picking the data, why do you only want to look at the last 8 years or so and not the record over the last half century or century?

 

Although you did not identify it as such, I assume your reply is supposed to be some kind of response to my post of a few hours ago.

However, hear this: Global warming (or the lack thereof) is a scientific issue, not an issue of progressives vs. regressives, or whatever. Anyone who tries to make it otherwise (your for instance) is guilty of trying to substitute politics for science.

In addition, as for my own political philosophy, there is no way you can possibly know what it is, nor is my political philosophy in any way relevant to the question of whether the earth is warming or not, or whether anthropogenic factors are significant contributors to climate trends.

 

"Global warming (or the lack thereof) is a scientific issue" - Sorry but you are wrong.

 

Pointing to temperature rises ten thousand years ago is irrelevant, as the human population was nowhere near as vulnerable then as it is now, due to the current population, and interdependence.

 

Like The Netherlands?

 

Alan, your question makes no sense to me. Reead my post again carefully, please. Perhaps I did not explain myself clearly enough for everybody to understand. If you need it I can try to be more extense and detailed.

 

It was more vulnerable. Air conditioners had not yet been invented.

 

please do G cause I couldn't really make heads or tails out of it either and you know how I love to go round and round with you and a few choice others concerning this

I can imagine you were trying to be sarcastic in claiming that science is cherry picking data vs the deniers as having presented the gospel truth in some way

but then you posted one short term graph as if that supports your position and a somewhat longer term graph of the industrial age, what that was supposed to support Im not sure

anyway
nice to have you back and posting again
hope all is well
B

 

I might point out that its fairly easy to show the increased levels of co2 and that the steady rate of increase is beyond anything typically seen in from natural sources



I might also point out that temp has also increased at an alarming rate over the industrial age as apposed to previous changes in both long and short term resolutions




if your suggesting that this data is cherry picked in some way it would be nice to hear why you believe its cherry picked as each of the graphs presented is from reputable arena's of higher learning

 

Alot of companies make plenty cash on CO2 recovery. Oil and Gas companies recover it from wellstream and shove it down in the earth for CO2 flooded oil fields. Used to just release it to atmosphere in the old days. Now the government makes us burn it. Pretty funny because CO2 is an inert gas. We put a flame next to it and make it look like its burning. Pretty funny actually, but it's the law to burn the CO2.

I'm sure that Oil and gas companies are not the only one's making a profit from CO2. I wonder who else makes profit from making people believe that the world will be destroyed unless we get rid of this pesky CO2. I'm sure that trees don't like it since they do convert CO2 to Oxygen.

CO2 is the new cash cow. Nothing more. Global warming is a lie, which is why things changed from Global Warming to Climate Change. Scientists disagee on whether the earth is warming or cooling. I think that Al Gore said that "The planet has a fever." I guess that with a fever sometimes you get the chills.

 

and so how do you explain the two graphs previously posted that clearly show an unprecedented rise in both temp and co2

also methane which I did not include but I could easily could have

the simple reality is we are burning fossil fuels and it is altering the chemistry of the atmosphere
as a result temp is also increasing

if the trend is allowed to continue then where does it lead ?

 

Guillermo,

Please explain your post (the one with the two figures) more clearly.

 

That is extremely interesting. What law is it that says that one must burn CO2? Please give us the reference for this interesting law you talk about.