propeller shaft bertram

Discussion in 'Props' started by pascal bertram, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. pascal bertram
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    pascal bertram Junior Member

    prop bertram

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    here the picture of the prop the strut and the shafts
    kind regards
    pascal
     
  2. pascal bertram
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    dear Baeckmo

    i have been sending a picture of prop and shaft a little there after
    kind regards
    pascal
     
  3. powerabout
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    That doesn't look like the bottom of any 42 Bertram I have ever seen?

    There is too much shaft between the strut and the prop so that wont help the vibration problem at all.
    Havign a bolt hanging out of the side of the strut to secure the bearing is not great, maybe a grub screw would be better or none at all depending on the type of bearing that is in there.

    Do you have a photo of the hull?
     
  4. pascal bertram
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    bertram or not bertram

    Here the boat
    kind regards
    pascal
     

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    yep that is one
    They didnt make the Motor yacht version in OZ so I have no experience with them.
    It was the keel that I have not seen before?
     
  6. Tigawave
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    Performance is also a factor of how much energy goes into shaft bend/whip rather than thrust.

    You could try a rigid bearing (I assume you are still using rubber bearings) we have had performance increase reported from users of rigid phenolic composite bearings rather than rubber. Some makes also resist marine growth on the shaft and bearing surface.
     
  7. pascal bertram
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    bearing

    hello

    could you said me a little more about those bearing rigid
    kind regards

    pascal
     
  8. Tigawave
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    When you apply thrust to a shaft it will want to bend, it is the bearings that hold it in place or llimit this movement. The closer you can hold the shaft to a straight line position the less energy will be used up in the shaft bending from its centre line as well as corkscrewing as torque is applied.

    If you use a rigid bearing the shaft canm only move as far as the clearance between shaft and bearing surface. Even when running on a water film the shaft can increase pressure in this film as it starts to bend, this increase in water film pressure will force rubber to give allowing the water film to remaain but the shaft to move.

    Use a rigid bearing material and the ammount of shaft bend is far less.

    There are a number of composite bearing manufacturers I work with one make from Perth which I believe performs better than most if not all of the others. Do a search for marine composite bearings and have a read. They are used in quite a wide range of vessels.
     
  9. pascal bertram
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    pascal bertram Junior Member

    Rigid Bearing

    HELLO

    i WILL SEE IF I CAN FIND SOME OF THOSE HERE IN THAILAND
    ALL THE BEST

    KIND REGARDS

    PASCAL
     

  10. pascal bertram
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    pascal bertram Junior Member

    dear typhoon

    for the hp i am very sure of the 335 hp because i get it out a detroit allison paper with all the details brake hp shaft hp ....
    if you give me your e mail i will downloard the form and send it to you with everything official i got pictures ...
    i go actualy 16 knots with very bad thailand made junk propellers of 23 inches

    thanks for your help if you interested going further send me your e mail
    kind regards

    pascal coldefy
     
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