True wind/apparent wind?

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  1. pygmalion
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    pygmalion Junior Member

    Can anyone give me the formula fore calculating:
    1: true wind, when you know apparent wind and boatspeed? (speed and angle)
    2: apparent wind, when you know true wind and boatspeed?

    If possible on a exel file...? ;-)



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  2. pygmalion
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    pygmalion Junior Member

    I dont have to have it on a ecel file!
    I can do that my self, but I cant find the formula anywhere!
     
  3. Skippy
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    Skippy Senior Member

    Good, that makes it a lot easier. :)

    Taking the angle between the boat's heading and the direction the wind is coming FROM,
    first get the longitudinal (x) and lateral (y) components of the wind velocity:
    (V means speed, a means apparent, t means true)
    (A means angle in DEGREES)

    Vay = Vtrue*sin(3.1416*Atrue/180)
    Vax = Vtrue*cos(3.1416*Atrue/180) + Vboat

    Vapparent = square root of (Vax squared + Vay squared)
    Aapparent = (180/3.1416)*arctan (Vay/Vax)

    To go the other way, switch true and apparent everywhere, and put a minus sign in the Vx equation:

    Vty = Vapparent*sin(3.1416*Aapparent/180)
    Vtx = Vapparent*cos(3.1416*Aapparent/180) - Vboat

    Vtrue = square root of (Vtx squared + Vty squared)
    Atrue = (180/3.1416)*arctan(Vty/Vtx)
     
  4. pygmalion
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    pygmalion Junior Member

    Truble

    (Im a bit tired now, it's 23.59 here)
    I'll have a closer look tomorrow, if not anybody can have a look and help me in the mean time?
     

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  5. Paul B

    Paul B Previous Member

    I put this sheet together quickly a couple of years ago. Seems about right until App Angle >90. I just input your calc in RED. Doesn't seem to work. Maybe someone can check both calcs.
     

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