OUTRAGE! Ady Gil (Earthrace) trimaran rammed and sunk by whalers!

And they were carrying out this delicate and involved refueling process in the middle of confronting the Japanese vessel and being sprayed with water? I don't think so.

The fact that the Japanese were blasting them with water tells me they were, or had just been, up to something nefarious that the Japanese were trying to disrupt. Like attempting to foul the rudder and prop, or throwing stink bombs, or aiming lasers at the crew, or....take your pick.

 

I am not into making assumptions only commenting on what I see and what has been said... They may have had ropes/nets laid out astern to snare the propellers of the whaler, or even mines, torpedos, or explosive devices, or who knows, - - but that is only wild conjecture at present...

 

Well, if you take into account how close they were and how the Japanese were blasting them with water, it doesn't really seem to be 'wild conjecture' to suspect they were up to no good.

Remember, this was no chance encounter at sea. The Sea Shepherds deliberately sought out the Japanese vessels, for the express (and explicitly announced) purpose of harassing them and interfering with their activities.

 

The very first vid shows them immediately before circling and dragging a line of some kind. It had floats, so I presume it was something that sinks - like cable.

 

But Mas thats what the Ady Gil was built for. The whaler may have also turned to keep his props clear.

The ship may have screwed the stern to port as he selected reverse to stop the vessels colliding. This would look the the bow going to STB

The stupidity to allow your vessel to run low on fuel with engines stumbling whilst crossing under the bow of a ship is unbelievable but is commensurate with his other maneuvers and decisions.

 

But it does not present as such by the video footage from either side so maybe the rabid-anti-whalers won the first round on a well laid sting, if all the evidence so presented is all that there is... I feel that if the Whalers suspected a rope or something astern of the bat-boat, they would have fired a harpoon to recover the evidence and blow the case for the anti-whalers out of the water, but lacking this, "tuff *******" as the personal secretary for Baghwan advised the media at a Perth retreat...

Hauling in a line with floats? - I did not see that, then that may be the smoking gun needed by the Whalers and then the anti-whalers are stuffed... changes the whole story As I posted in Boat Jokes, - - an epitaph - - if the French were to say "1, 2, 3, 4, 5", an English ear would only hear; "Oon, Der, Twa, - - CAT SUNK"

 

The bat-boat people sink easily...but they will return..and in greater numbers...

 

I don't think they need proof as in a wet piece of rope that was stated to have been removed from the sea or thier prop.

Green Peace make it quite clear that thier tactics are unharmfull by laying harmless ropes etc etc

Harmless? not so for the diver that has to clear it from a tossing ship in Antarctic waters.

Ropes that fail there destiny are abandoned as in the documentary I saw!!!. The rope failed to connect the prop and the dinghy was called to return immediately so they could carry on with there pursuit while silly unprofessional Paul Watson touted them on the radio.

Hows that for green?

 

Good for you but your guess would be wrong

You assume that sea shepherd attack LEGAL loggers and fisherman fishing and logging in a sustainable manner.
I think you may be very much mistaken, but if you have some links to support your allegation, please provide them.

Again, you are only guessing as to what these people have done.
You do not base your guess on any facts.

If you dont like sea shepherd methods attack the methods used and the laws.
Like I said earlier, play the ball not the man.

The insinuation that I must be a pot smoker because I am greenish is both insulting and deliberately misleading.

Play the ball not the man.

 

Sonny, you better go back and review SeaSheperds OWN Vids posted by them, AGAIN... They Clearly show the smaller vessel coming up the starboard side of the larger vessel, and getting blasted by water cannon. Then as they approach the bow of the larger vessel, they increase speed in a pulse, to clear the Bow, and then decrease speed, and turn under the bow. Then increase speed, again, just before the collision. If you look closely, you can SEE, that the smaller vessel is still running in FORWARD, as it is getting swept down the side of the larger vessel, in the Vids posted by the Japanese. Go back and LOOK, then come back and tell us ALL, what you saw.....

 

Again, you have provided nothing to support this allegation, I would suggest you are just making things up.

Any footage I have seen of ANY eco vessel whether it be sea shepherd or Greenpeace, the water cannons have usually been out in force, even when vessels have been coming up from behind, therefore not laying nets, ropes etc.

But if you have any facts that prove me wrong, please provide them.

 

Question, in a search for objectivity and attention to detail here's something I'm wondering:
Starting at about 00:53 in that video, SHONAN MARU 2's bow wave begins to wash under ADY GIL.
:?: Could what we've taking as AG's prop wash and outrigger wakes starting around 00:56 be a flow effect of SM2's bow wave spreading under AG :?:
A mix of the two?

Now, as for the fellow's comment between 01:11 and 01:14 about

All I have to say is

Question reporter gal asked around 01:22 to 01:26 that don't both captains have a responsibility to stay out of each other's way, Paul Watson did not answer that question - the answer is either yes or no, not the story of what happened.

 

There is a bow wave yes but no the ady gil has a considerable amount of prop wash spewing out.

 

Not to mention how fast the ady gil reversed away after the collision. That itself clearly says to me the ady gil could have easily avoided the collision had they so wanted.

 

Okay.
I'm trying to look at this as objectively as can be managed with the awareness that my opinion of SSCS's behavior is rather low to begin with and that will color what I think I see.

It would be nice to be God and know the true truth, but not being divine, and not having been concurrently present on each vessel, I'm stuck with divining only a somewhat likely apparent truth from input that might be factual or not.

Sucks to be human.