Concrete submarine

Catstrophic failure depth of Willy's c-sub destructive test wager board:

bntii: 85 m

watson: 0 m

s-tom: 312 m

KnutS: 74 m

Apex: 60 m

gonzo: 16.3 m

hoytodow: 45 m

That's an average of ~99 m (excluding watson who doesn't think the sub

will ever get wet). And ~56 m if you throw out my optimistic 312 m.

Lets go diving Willy!

 

Those who can, do, those who can't, give personally untested criticism on forum boards and call other names like children.

It should be an easy test of his sub to attach a remote control cable and safety chain to it, to allow unmanned depth tests, which I bet the owners will do. I would.

Considering the deep see oil platform was not cast all at once of it's 1000 ft length and is still in use at that depth 20+ yrs latter I would think Wil"s sub should go at least that deep, but I have no history of building a c-sub so that advice is pretty much useless.

 

Here you are wrong, dear safffffffffffff/Willmer.

I'm quite sure that the legs of the oil platform were cast in one continous pour with sliding moulds.

 

So only chickens can grade eggs, then?

Jimbo

 

Long before you go to the expense and trouble of such testing, why not do a bit of NON destructive testing with X-rays or ultrasound to verify the soundness (or lack thereof) of the basic hull WRT voids, discontinuities, etc.? Has that even been done? I think not!
If it has not been done at this point, when so much finishing work has apparently been done to the hull, speaks volumes about the competency of the project manager.

Jimbo

 

Was that done on his 1st sub that successfully went 33m?

That's a great productive suggestion. If I was Willmer, I would not discuss to much of how I do things, that would be business secretes.

.

 

Ya, ya, ya... So, what's your failure depth number safffffy?

Oh, and when's the test?

-Tom

 

All builders of steel, grp, epoxy will state their type of material, not all the details of course, but the general type, and its average properties.

Also, for a pressurized hull/tank, it got to comply with some standards for design, these are not business secrets. Also the factor of safety at operational dept, may be of interest to some costumers, or at least me (but do not mistake me for a costumer...!).

I see that there's a statement here that it's twice as strong as the concrete structure of the Troll platform... I've still not seen an explanation that I quite understand - yet.

Still waiting for some details and numbers, material properties.. etc...:?:

Have also not seen a good explanation of how they have solved the reinforcment problem along the row of windows...

Also to have the ballast water; internally? Is that the best option?

Will not hold my breath..

Will not place bet with Apex either

 

Saffffffffffffffffwllemer it is not business secrets it is ignorance, incompetence and second agenda. Mostly the sub will not dive or float or even exist. The pictures of the so call 200 tons crap show an object in carboard painted in black.
As for your website Saffffffwellmer you are calling for investors.
Shame on you, you are a fake.
Don't try, I know you.

 

Lets see...

A builder that is criticized because they:

-Lie about their experience.
-Lie about their products.
-Falsify research that contradicts them.
-Clone their blog so they can claim to be part of an "International Manufacturer".
-Lie on the new blog about their experience.
-Clone their identity on forums to argue their case from another point of view.
-Only restate their deceptions when ever challenged to provide information about their product.

The critics are harsh because there is so much valid criticism to be leveled at this project.

I am with Par on this one- I believe this is a bald cover for construction of a vessel that will be used for illicit trade. Any technical assistance provided here will be used to aid this effort- on the part of Wellmer or others who are following his lead.

 

Bntii

do´nt call him a builder, please.

Wilfried Ellmer is a cheater, liar and tricky *******. But not a builder.

Regards
Richard

 

Noted..

I am often careless before coffee.

 

The additional points may get you awake....................

 

Have to say the same - sorry ! - but post this new picture series...still waiting for my critics to post THEIR achievements ... waiting for "talkworthy" input... - sorry tom if i missed to communicate - pls. contact if you still want to become part of the project ...

 

When will you idiot stop that nonsense? This is wasting the Forum resources.

And you did not "say" anything. Never...............you only drivel